• @splonglo
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    21 month ago

    The polls I see put it at about 50-50 ( from Fivethirtyeight.com ).

    Your summary is wrong. They put out an opinion piece arguing that the DNC underestimates the threat from the GOP. I agree, they’re running a pathetically weak campaign against someone who will probably end democracy and might have them all killed.

    • mozz
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      1 month ago

      Yeah, it’s basically a dead heat in national polls; it is pointless given the incredible number of issues that make it more complex to look at than just “which number in the national polling is higher” to get any level of heated about swings up or down by single percentage points in the national poll, much less “should Biden drop out?” or similar questions.

      None of this is to say there is no problem. 538’s overall bottom line estimate which takes into account factors way more complex than I have dug into, arrives at an ultimate output of Biden having about a 25% chance of winning the election. That’s probably the closest thing we have to an overall “what’s the likely election outcome” polling barometer. I’m just sort of talking about poking holes in the lazy and partisan way it tends to be analyzed when the media talks about polling.

      Edit: Wait WHAT THE SHIT

      I went looking for the summary model to send that said 25%, and found this - Nate Silver gives Biden overall a 52% chance to win. WHEN THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN

      Was I just looking at the 2020 model before and not realizing it, or something? Have I become so dyslexic that I read 52 as 25 even when there was a whole chart and everything?

      My world is upended and my morning is somewhat happier now. @[email protected] hey dude I love polls again

      • @Maggoty
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        21 month ago

        The national poll isn’t going to decide this election though. It really is about a 100,000 people in 3 states.

      • @TwentySeven
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        11 month ago

        Nate Silver is not at 538 any more. I believe his model has gives Biden 35% or so, but it’s paywalled so I’m not entirely sure

        • mozz
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          21 month ago

          Got it. That makes it make sense. This is Nate Silver’s, and I am almost sure that it predicts 25%. I think it was un paywalled at one point and that’s when I saw it.

    • @Maggoty
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      21 month ago

      538 puts a heavy weight on time. Their model will say 50/50 until after both conventions.