What if they change their mind though? What if they see the error of their ways? Can you guarantee that all people who think that way will never change their thinking in the future?
I think jumping directly to violence and killing is probably not the greatest idea. Yes, their ideology is bad, but they are still a human. All humans can change their mind without needing to have violence involved. There are people who have left similar walks of life as well, former KKK and mafia, etc. That’s not to say that they should be accepted or encouraged to keep holding Nazi ideals, but maybe let’s not incite violence against them? Is that not the same thing that they did to gain power? How would a person using their same tactics be any different or better than them? Sure, its not the easiest thing to do, but I think its more humane to try to show love for people by educating them rather than just killing people or being violent.
I will feel no sympathy for every dead nazi just because “what if they change?”.
No. You decided to be a facist, and facists get bullets. I don’t step on a train track, and expect people to feel sorry for me if I get hit by the train, because “What if I step off instead?”
No. I was an idiot. I stood on the train tracks. Then I died. My fault. We need to bring back “fuck around, find out”.
What you talk about is completely irrelevant to what I said. You are talking about consequences for actions, and I am talking about changing people’s thinking. These are two very different things.
If they’re dead, they already made their choice. You think of them however you want. I agree with you that actions should absolutely have consequences, but that is not relevant in this context. A person thinking or believing something that is wrong should not have every person trying to kill them or commit some act of violence upon them.
If they’re still alive, which is what I am talking about, there is no justifiable reason to kill a human unless they have committed a crime with the punishment of death. Thinking should not be a crime, even if that thinking is very wrong. I think a world where thinking something wrong can put you in the grave is a very dangerous future to try to advocate for. Especially when humans are the ones that decides what thinking is right or wrong, because the wrong thinking will always be whatever will remove power from a certain group.
In your example, you mention you dying on train tracks that you decided to walk onto. What I am talking about is the way that onlookers and bystanders react to you being on the train tracks. Which is the better person: the person that begs and pleads for you to get off the train tracks maybe even grabbing you or physically trying to pull you off the tracks, or the person that pushes you into the oncoming train? My whole point is that people should be the ones trying to help get you off the train tracks, not the ones pushing you into the train and removing the chance you might have had to get off of the tracks.
In the end its still your choice. But I would hope that you can agree that pushing you into the oncoming train would be a bad choice for someone else to choose.
What if they change their mind though? What if they see the error of their ways? Can you guarantee that all people who think that way will never change their thinking in the future?
I think jumping directly to violence and killing is probably not the greatest idea. Yes, their ideology is bad, but they are still a human. All humans can change their mind without needing to have violence involved. There are people who have left similar walks of life as well, former KKK and mafia, etc. That’s not to say that they should be accepted or encouraged to keep holding Nazi ideals, but maybe let’s not incite violence against them? Is that not the same thing that they did to gain power? How would a person using their same tactics be any different or better than them? Sure, its not the easiest thing to do, but I think its more humane to try to show love for people by educating them rather than just killing people or being violent.
I will feel no sympathy for every dead nazi just because “what if they change?”.
No. You decided to be a facist, and facists get bullets. I don’t step on a train track, and expect people to feel sorry for me if I get hit by the train, because “What if I step off instead?”
No. I was an idiot. I stood on the train tracks. Then I died. My fault. We need to bring back “fuck around, find out”.
What you talk about is completely irrelevant to what I said. You are talking about consequences for actions, and I am talking about changing people’s thinking. These are two very different things.
If they’re dead, they already made their choice. You think of them however you want. I agree with you that actions should absolutely have consequences, but that is not relevant in this context. A person thinking or believing something that is wrong should not have every person trying to kill them or commit some act of violence upon them.
If they’re still alive, which is what I am talking about, there is no justifiable reason to kill a human unless they have committed a crime with the punishment of death. Thinking should not be a crime, even if that thinking is very wrong. I think a world where thinking something wrong can put you in the grave is a very dangerous future to try to advocate for. Especially when humans are the ones that decides what thinking is right or wrong, because the wrong thinking will always be whatever will remove power from a certain group.
In your example, you mention you dying on train tracks that you decided to walk onto. What I am talking about is the way that onlookers and bystanders react to you being on the train tracks. Which is the better person: the person that begs and pleads for you to get off the train tracks maybe even grabbing you or physically trying to pull you off the tracks, or the person that pushes you into the oncoming train? My whole point is that people should be the ones trying to help get you off the train tracks, not the ones pushing you into the train and removing the chance you might have had to get off of the tracks.
In the end its still your choice. But I would hope that you can agree that pushing you into the oncoming train would be a bad choice for someone else to choose.