we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

  • @Lumisal
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    I did read the thing, then provided an article explaining why detecting copyrighted material / determining if something is written by AI is very inaccurate.

    Perhaps take your own advice to “read the fucken thing” next time instead of making yourself look like an idiot. Though I doubt you’ve ever heard of “better to stay silent and let them think you the fool than to speak and remove all doubt”.

    Btw, I even recall that Ars specifically covered the company you linked to in a separate article as well. I’d be glad to provide it once you’ve come to your senses and want to discuss things like an adult.

    • @[email protected]
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      124 months ago

      Mistral’s Mixtral-8x7B-Instruct-v0.1 produced copyrighted content on 22% of the prompts.

      did you know that a lesser-known side effect of the infinite monkeys approach is that they will produce whole sections of copyright content abso-dupo-lutely by accident? wild, I know! totes coinkeedink!

      I’d be glad to provide it once you’ve come to your senses and want to discuss things like an adult

      jesus fucking christ you must be a fucking terrible person to work with

      I’ve seen toddlers throw more mature tantrums

      • Steve
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        94 months ago

        she wrote harry potter with an llm, didn’t she?

      • @Lumisal
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        -74 months ago

        I’m too old to discuss against bad faith arguments.

        Especially with people who won’t read the information I provide them showing their initial information was wrong.

        One is a company that has something to sell, the other an article with citations showing why it’s not easy to determine what percentage of a data set is infringing on copyright, or whether exact reproduction via “fishing expedition” prompting is a useful metric to determine if unauthorized copyright was used in training.

        The dumbest take though is attacking Mistral of all LLMs, even though it’s on an Apache 2.0 license.

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          I’ve read the article you’ve posted: it does not refute the fucking datapoint provided, it literally DOES NOT EVEN MENTION MISTRAL AT ALL.

          so all I can tell you is to take your pearlclutching tantrum bullshit and please fuck off already

          • @[email protected]
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            114 months ago

            god these weird little fuckers’ ability to fill a thread with garbage is fucking notable isn’t it? something about loving LLMs makes you act like an LLM. how depressing for them.

            • @[email protected]
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              114 months ago
              • high willingness to accept painfully inexact responses
              • high tendency to side with authority when given no information
              • low ability to distinguish “how it is” from “how it seems like it should be”

              Meta:

              • default expectation that others are the same way
              • indignant consent-ignoring gesture if they’re not
            • @[email protected]
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              94 months ago

              To think that when sneer club/techtakes migrated to lemmy, I was pretty sure we would not be getting a lot of incidental traffic to the communities. Just about as wrong as you can be.

            • Steve
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              94 months ago

              I bet they go to react conferences

          • @Lumisal
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            -44 months ago

            Removed by mod

          • @Lumisal
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            Removed by mod

            • @[email protected]
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              104 months ago

              you should speak to a physicist, they might be able to find a way your density can contribute to science

            • Steve
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              84 months ago

              “exact percentage”

              just fuck right off. wasting my fucken time.

              • @Lumisal
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                -44 months ago

                You’re the one who linked to an exact percentage, not me. Have a good day.

                • @[email protected]
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                  104 months ago

                  no, you utter fucking clown. they’re literally posting to take the piss out of you, the only person in the room who isn’t getting that everyone is laughing at them, not with them

                  • @Lumisal
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                    Removed by mod

                • Steve
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                  84 months ago

                  re-read your chatgpt response and think about whether the percentages in my original link could be too high or too low.

                  • Steve
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                    94 months ago

                    but, like, really think this time. at this point i’m not arguing with you, i’m trying to help you.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    94 months ago

                    too high or too low

                    trick question everyone knows this late on a friday you want a body high for that nice mellow low feeling

    • Steve
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      104 months ago

      you’re conflating “detecting ai text” with “detecting an ai trained on copyrighted material”

      send the relevant article or shut up

      • @Lumisal
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        -94 months ago

        Ignoring the logical inconsistency you just spouted for a moment (can’t tell if it’s written by AI but knows it used copyrighted material? Do you not hear yourself?), you do realize Mistral is released under the Apache 2.0 license, a highly permissive scheme that has no restrictions on use or reproduction beyond attribution, right?

        I think it’s clear you’re arguing in bad faith however with no intention of changing your misinformed opinion at this point. Perhaps you’d enjoy an echo chamber like the “fuckai” Lemmy instance.

        • @[email protected]
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          114 months ago

          wait a minute… there’s another “fuck ai” instance and they’ve already told you to go fuck yourself?

          I wonder if they want to be friends

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            have seen one on lemmy.world. it’s kinda the dancing baby version of the stubsack and techtakes tho from what I can tell

        • @[email protected]
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          84 months ago

          holy shit you really are quite dumb. the fuck is wrong with you?

          actually don’t answer that