Updated with additional reporting about Grayson’s claims to have been discharged honorably and the circumstances of his hire at the Sangamon County Sheriff’s Office. Sean Grayson, the former Sangamon County Sheriff’s deputy now charged with murder in the fatal shooting of Sonya Massey, was previously discharged from the U.S. Army for serious misconduct, military records […]
However, the DD Form 214 summarizing Grayson’s tenure in the Army indicates he did not receive an honorable discharge.
Grayson also didn’t receive a dishonorable discharge, but Ghiotto said the DD Form 214 indicated Grayson was “kicked out” of the Army for serious misconduct before his regular term of enlistment was up.
Grayson received a “general” discharge under “honorable conditions,” which Ghiotto said means some, but not all, of Grayson’s service was honorable. That type of discharge should be a “red flag” to potential future employers, Ghiotto said. But he said a “bigger red flag” is the listing of misconduct.
Seems like it might be a military terminology problem
Yep. If your discharge is anything other than honorable (I think medical is not distinct from honorable, but if it is, that too), you either fucked up majorly or you are the fuck up.
Anecdotally at least, medical can be given as “general discharge” and it’s neither honorable nor dishonorable, it’s just “you’re discharged, bye”
That’s how mine went, at least. I don’t personally know anyone else who got medically discharged who wasn’t on their second or third re-up.
Although I do know of one guy who got absolutely fucked over by military medical, and after 18 months of negotiation recieved an honorable discharge and will be receiving e-8 pay for the rest of his life… It’s a permanent medical condition caused by the medical facility, and a medical discharge, but it’s “honorable”.
So my vast knowledge of discharge conditions and medical brings it to 1 honorable, 1 general.
General under honorable is for being a fuckup, but just regular kind. This should have been at least general under other than honorable conditions at best.
Ghiotto said this kind of discharge suggests that Grayson committed an offense equivalent to something that would have led to at least a year of incarceration for a civilian.
“A good way of looking at it is, if it would be a misdemeanor in the civilian world, it’s not going to be a ‘serious offense,’” he said. He added it’s likely Grayson was not court-martialed.
It’s unclear what the misconduct entailed. Offenses that can lead to a finding of misconduct can include drug abuse, sexual assault and going AWOL, or “absent without official leave,” Ghiotto said.
Just to give context from the article:
Seems like it might be a military terminology problem
Yep. If your discharge is anything other than honorable (I think medical is not distinct from honorable, but if it is, that too), you either fucked up majorly or you are the fuck up.
Anecdotally at least, medical can be given as “general discharge” and it’s neither honorable nor dishonorable, it’s just “you’re discharged, bye”
That’s how mine went, at least. I don’t personally know anyone else who got medically discharged who wasn’t on their second or third re-up.
Although I do know of one guy who got absolutely fucked over by military medical, and after 18 months of negotiation recieved an honorable discharge and will be receiving e-8 pay for the rest of his life… It’s a permanent medical condition caused by the medical facility, and a medical discharge, but it’s “honorable”.
So my vast knowledge of discharge conditions and medical brings it to 1 honorable, 1 general.
General under honorable is for being a fuckup, but just regular kind. This should have been at least general under other than honorable conditions at best.
further context
I’m guessing sexual assault.
Interesting, thanks