• KillingTimeItself
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    45 months ago

    I’m simply pointing out that facism is not at all a common endpoint

    i mean, i feel like you could argue it’s a common outcome for people that don’t respect the system (i.e. trump)

    Education may have a part in it, but people believed uri geller could break spoons…

    • kora
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      25 months ago

      Trump respected the system and thats why his “smol loan” got him places. That is the system. It was created by and for the very fuckery that he is known for.

      • KillingTimeItself
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        15 months ago

        i’m talking in a more directed political context, those who do not respect the decorum of the political institution are doomed to succumb to the fate of fascism inevitably.

        The entire purpose of the decorum is for the system to function properly.

        • kora
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          25 months ago

          Decorum that asks for people to “respect” and follow is a built-in loophole.

          Hard, robust, and readily reassessed punitive rules are the only solution.

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            15 months ago

            yeah you can argue that, until a tank rolls up to the capitol, and that starts to become a seriously effective bargaining deal right there.

            There is literally nothing more potent than using force. Decorum is what prevents everything from being some form of fascism at the end of the day. It needs to be upheld, either through law, or social behavior.

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              15 months ago

              Thats literally what I said,except im not calling it decorum as thats a nonobligatory word for what should be forcibly compelled by law for all. And that law should be easily reaxamined and reformed so as to remain robust with time.

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                15 months ago

                fair enough, but unfortunately, it does seem to be mostly just decorum, rather than law, considering that the immunity law passed, somehow.

                It’s important to remember that if someone doesn’t respect the system, there is very little between them and changing it, regardless of what the system is setup to do.