• @Treczoks
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    424 months ago

    Question: As this is no longer a neutral platform, what would be the legal implications? Is Twitter still a neutral carrier (or whatever the proper term is) and enjoys far-reaching legal protections for this?

    • @[email protected]
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      434 months ago

      There is no such thing as a “neutral carrier” for social media. It’s a made-up concept used to pretend that a social media site isn’t allowed to be partisan.

      There are zero legal ramifications for making Twitter as partisan as musk wants.

      • Lad
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        Funny how the “free speech” guy bought Twitter and made it more biased and authoritarian than it has ever been.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          14 months ago

          This is literally every “free speech” guy, with the possible exception of Julian Assange.

        • @model_tar_gz
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          14 months ago

          Which part of “free speech (for me)” is hard to understand?

        • WorseDoughnut 🍩
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          Authoritarian? Definitely.

          More biased? Be real, It’s just as biased, but just in the other direction post-musk.

            • WorseDoughnut 🍩
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              I dunno, I think it was pretty blatantly one sided. I have to assume most people who agree with the bias don’t tend to see it around them though.

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                I just remember arguing with wacko right wingers more then I liked lmao. Here we have a photographer getting banned, on old Twitter you had Alex Jones (and that took many years) or people literally throwing out casual violence who got banned.

    • @[email protected]
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      Nothing. Private company can block whoever they want from using their service. Doesn’t impact section 230 protections.

    • @Linkerbaan
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      -234 months ago

      What’s a “neutral platform”? On Lemmy.world you get banned if you say something bad about israel.

      • @Jiggle_Physics
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        224 months ago

        People shit on israel all the time here. I know I do. Guess I am banned.

      • @TrickDacy
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        And yet you post thousands of criticisms about Israel, exclusively, and I see that from you and others constantly. how are you circumventing the bans?

        Inb4 “you support/defend/love Israel/genocide”: no I clearly don’t, I’m just pointing out that you’re flat out lying here. Simply criticizing Israel has likely never resulted in a single ban.

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          What do you mean i have been banned from both news and worldnews for exposing Hasbara.

          Of course you post thousands of defenses of israel so you’re not banned.

          • @TrickDacy
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            Oh now it’s only certain communities. Before you claimed the instance banned users for any criticism of Israel. Goalposts on wheels I guess.

            So once again, maybe you could cite a single instance where I ever defended Israel. One time. All you have to do is cite one example. You won’t though, because you know that a comment where I said Biden isn’t responsible isn’t going to convince anyone.

            • @Linkerbaan
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              Only the biggest communities lmao. Censoring anti israel news because it got too hot under their heels.

              Biden isn’t responsible for anything israel does sure dude. Biden never sent israell 2000 pound bombs to drop on schools or vetoes resolutions against israel at the UN. Anyone that claims otherwise should get banned from Lemmy.world right?

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                Deflecting and cramming words in my mouth are not examples of jackshit

                And I’m sure your bans have nothing to do with the many public examples we have of you lying.

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                  Indeed. The mods were banning anyone debunking now proven israeli lies about rape on oct7.

                  In classic Hasbara fashion you turn yourself into the victim while spouting all the lies you can think up.

                  • @TrickDacy
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                    34 months ago

                    Curious that the “lies” I’m telling are never mentioned by name or shown to be real.

      • @Mediocre_Bard
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        That doesn’t seem right. Israel is conducting a genocide. Why would they be protected?

        • @TrickDacy
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          They aren’t, but this user’s life work is saying anyone they don’t approve of is supporting awful people and actions. Why they aren’t actually banned for that toxic behavior is a mystery to me. Then they have the audacity to lie so brazenly: that the thing they do all day every day is banned behavior. They’re so oppressed!

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            It really is funny how it’s always the loudest people who cry about being “censored” when people don’t agree with them or dare call them out for their shitty behaviour. Linkerbaan acts as if he doesn’t have a reputation for his behaviour, and as if we can’t look through modlogs and his posting history to see if he really is being censored or not. Which, of course, he isn’t.

      • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please
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        First I’m hearing about it, because I have taken hot creamy shits on Israel before. Guess I’m banned ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        • @Linkerbaan
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          I got banned for taking steamy dumps on israel. Many other users have too.

          • @TrickDacy
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            And yet this thread is full of users who claim the opposite experience. Guess you’re totally not lying.

            • @Linkerbaan
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              So you’re saying .world did not ban me

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                Why would I need to say an obvious fact which fully contradicts your point? You are still here, able to lie your ass off on lemmy.world. claiming to be banned, which you clearly should be for spreading lies, but you aren’t.

                • @Linkerbaan
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                  Ah so you support israeli lies about rape on oct7?

                  • @TrickDacy
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                    Shocking more lies about my beliefs, from the person who is banned and therefore didn’t write anything here.

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        I frequently state the fact that Israel is a genocidal apartheid ethnostate that has “Jewish supremacy” as the basis of its existence and should be abolished, and I haven’t been banned anywhere on lemmy.world for it

        • @Jiggle_Physics
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          Nah, I see people who shit on ukraine a lot, and are pretty common to see in a lot of places. They have been here for a long time now, and are still going strong. So if higher visibility accounts, that lots of people know about, do it, I am gonna have to assume you either are full of shit, or you saw accounts with the fingerprint of bot behavior getting torched, and just decided it had to be due to having a negative opinion of Ukraine. That, or you are talking about people being out-right racist, or preaching violent rhetoric about it, cause that can get you banned, but it isn’t for the reason you are making it out to be, here.

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            Nah, I see people who shit on ukraine a lot

            Sure, but I see that content regularly bombarded with take down notices, particularly when it’s a post.

            Lemmy.world is highly allergic to anything that might be construed as anti-American or pro-non-western Evil Country.

            • @Jiggle_Physics
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              That is different than being banned from the instance for what you say though.

              • @UnderpantsWeevil
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                The thing about banning people is that they don’t get to come back on here and argue with you over it.

                • @Jiggle_Physics
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                  I can still see them on the other instances they subscribe to usually. When I have seen bans the accounts have mostly looked like bots, and got booted for looking like one. The others I have seen have people with violent, or bald faced bigotry. I am sure there are people that got booted unfairly, because people are running the show, and people aren’t great for this sort of thing. However, a standard practice of banning people from the instance for talking shit on Ukraine, or Israel, is not a thing.

          • @StaySquared
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            Yeah I realized it was a Pro-Ukraine community, not the entirety of Lemmy that’s banning people for their views on Ukraine.

            • @Jiggle_Physics
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              So you went into a private community, created to support Ukraine, and you are blaming lemmy.world, that they banned you? Because I have seen plenty of Ukraine critical stuff on lemmy.world, even stuff that borders on out-right ethnic bigotry, get to stay, because the accounts aren’t really breaking rules, and don’t act like bots.