Any time someone says they’re a “moderate” or a centrist, it usually means they will fold to fascism if it serves them, which makes them a right-winger by default. Fuck all of this soft language. You either support human rights, or you don’t. There is no middle ground.
If the alternative is extremism that continues to push right, centrists are doing fuck all for the working class collective. Extremism unfortunately makes that an inescapable reality.
When the group with the most control within government at the moment is 1. The most extreme, 2. does not compromise at all, and 3. is pushing to strip rights from people, tell me what the options left are. At this point it’s not even about left vs right or any of that nonsense. It’s about preventing fascism from having a chokehold on the livelihood of the working class.
I’ve been pretty direct about the way I see it. I don’t see how I’ve moved goalposts. Extremism forces us to the most rudimentary set of options: help burn the house down, watch it burn, or try to put it out.
To be clear, I’m not a “vote blue no matter who” dipshit, and I can’t stand conservatives or libertarian types. The US duopoly is to blame for our lack of options, and when fascism has intertwined itself with your country’s leadership in the form of people like Netanyahu getting a standing ovation like Hitler did, options become… limited.
It’s anecdotal but every time I’ve encountered a person that identified as centrist or moderate, they mostly aligned with conservative ideology and were otherwise absent from political participation or opinion. It becomes this thing where they pick and choose based on their own personal privilege because their future isn’t yet being threatened by extremism (which can also be attributed to classical liberalism). This is the unfortunate byproduct of being up against a side that is willing to take everything from people in order to get what they want.
Is it? Real democracies have like 30ish parties you can vote for and 2-4 parties of that, that’ll for the government and like up to 10 parties that will form the parliament.
Why should the US be special? Is everyone in the US born with binary opinions?
What about me? I don’t support Democrats or Republicans. Every time I vote, I vote for “Big Giant Astroid inbound for earth to end us all”.
If not that, then maybe Spiderman. To me Superman is too goody goody, and would get decimated on the world stage when sacrifices must be made. Batman seems like he only rescues the rich, and therefore might be ecconomically problematic. But Spiderman, he’s always doing the right thing, despite heavy media criticism from media outlets trying to paint him as the bad guy. He knows all about sacrifice too. He jumps off of buildings to save people. I mean, yes, there was that weird time he put on a black costume for a bit, and argueably did some evil things…but he’s past that. Besides. He’s not the only New Yorker who’s had black goo dripping down his face.
Any time someone says they’re a “moderate” or a centrist, it usually means they will fold to fascism if it serves them, which makes them a right-winger by default. Fuck all of this soft language. You either support human rights, or you don’t. There is no middle ground.
this is 100% fucking bullshit
If the alternative is extremism that continues to push right, centrists are doing fuck all for the working class collective. Extremism unfortunately makes that an inescapable reality.
Yes, the only options are left, do nothing centrist, or extremist right.
Don’t have time to debate you right now, but that is an absolutely absurdist level false dichotomy and cheetah speed goalpost moving.
When the group with the most control within government at the moment is 1. The most extreme, 2. does not compromise at all, and 3. is pushing to strip rights from people, tell me what the options left are. At this point it’s not even about left vs right or any of that nonsense. It’s about preventing fascism from having a chokehold on the livelihood of the working class.
I’ve been pretty direct about the way I see it. I don’t see how I’ve moved goalposts. Extremism forces us to the most rudimentary set of options: help burn the house down, watch it burn, or try to put it out.
To be clear, I’m not a “vote blue no matter who” dipshit, and I can’t stand conservatives or libertarian types. The US duopoly is to blame for our lack of options, and when fascism has intertwined itself with your country’s leadership in the form of people like Netanyahu getting a standing ovation like Hitler did, options become… limited.
I mostly agree. Someone telling me that they fall between Dems And Repubs on a political scale is a red flag.
It’s anecdotal but every time I’ve encountered a person that identified as centrist or moderate, they mostly aligned with conservative ideology and were otherwise absent from political participation or opinion. It becomes this thing where they pick and choose based on their own personal privilege because their future isn’t yet being threatened by extremism (which can also be attributed to classical liberalism). This is the unfortunate byproduct of being up against a side that is willing to take everything from people in order to get what they want.
Is it? Real democracies have like 30ish parties you can vote for and 2-4 parties of that, that’ll for the government and like up to 10 parties that will form the parliament.
Why should the US be special? Is everyone in the US born with binary opinions?
Yes. I don’t think democrats are all that good to begin with. So, being closer to the worse party is concerning.
Mmmmm, I sure love idealogical purity tests!
Better not step an inch out of line!
That’s all our system allows. You can be dem, rep, or politically irrelevant.
What about me? I don’t support Democrats or Republicans. Every time I vote, I vote for “Big Giant Astroid inbound for earth to end us all”.
If not that, then maybe Spiderman. To me Superman is too goody goody, and would get decimated on the world stage when sacrifices must be made. Batman seems like he only rescues the rich, and therefore might be ecconomically problematic. But Spiderman, he’s always doing the right thing, despite heavy media criticism from media outlets trying to paint him as the bad guy. He knows all about sacrifice too. He jumps off of buildings to save people. I mean, yes, there was that weird time he put on a black costume for a bit, and argueably did some evil things…but he’s past that. Besides. He’s not the only New Yorker who’s had black goo dripping down his face.
You okay?