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I’m high-roading people who don’t understand that advocating for someone to kill themselves is wrong. I think you do.
“Kill yourself” is such a bad insult to begin with. There’s so many more creative ways to insult and mock terfs, beginning with the obvious lack of any sort of fucking logic in the garbage they put out.
Making them feel stupid will be much better than childishly saying “despite universal human rights (which you’re not even in favour of), I think you don’t deserve to live because you’re stupid and hateful, so please take this poison or jump in a river with some stones tied to your feet, but physically, end your life. I don’t want you to be alive anymore, but I also realise me killing you myself would be criminal. Honestly I just want you to stop spreading hate, but even when you’re not willing to do that, I’m still sure you’ll take my advice on actually ending your own life.”
I believe you’d use “kill yourself” as a childish insult, but I’d like to see you seriously advocating someone actually killing themselves. You could even bring them a knife to do it, couldn’t you?
I’m not cisgender, btw, and I’ve had years of depression and seeing kids just toss “kys” around that fucking lightly pisses me the fuck off, because I’ve heard it plenty. A few times made me think that I’ll go and slit my wrists in front of some of those. I’ve some 20cm long scars on both my wrists.
Please think of the things you write to, no matter what a shitty person you’re writing to. How would we even win if we stoop down to their level?
“If you can’t respect me pretending like I’d have the courage to actually watch someone kill themselves because I said so, you’re not my ally”
I respect your passion to fight terf cunts. I do. BUT I don’t respect anyone saying “kys” specially with the acronym or euphemisms.
There’s very much a reason it’s banned in the TOS.
The same reason we can’t advocate murdering the ultra-wealthy. Which is why we say “eat the rich”, not “kill the rich”, because while both imply dead rich people, the former projects the reason for this “threat”.
It’s paradoxical that good guys have to gimp themselves with rules and morality while “the enemy” doesn’t give a fuck about it, but it is what it is.
Hate spreads hate. I don’t hate terfs, I’m disgusted and disappointed in them as humans. They sicken me, but I don’t want hateful people to make me feel hate. It’s consumed a large part of my life and completely in vain.
Anger is a good motivator for acting, and I’m often angry at terfs, but I don’t hate them. I pity the sad fuckers, and no, I wouldn’t shed a tear if a busload drove off a cliff, but as an adult, especially one who’s had actual suicidal ideation, I can not in good conscience advocate for anyone to kill themselves.
Alright, after you apologized I was almost willing to look past these replies or at least leave it for the other mods make a decision here, because honestly I get it. It’s sort of a “paradox of tolerance” thing and I’m not unsympathetic…
But you’ve gone right back to telling someone who hasn’t done anything to you that they deserve death. Sorry, but we’re not having that here.
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You’re assuming an incredible decree.
I’m high-roading people who don’t understand that advocating for someone to kill themselves is wrong. I think you do.
“Kill yourself” is such a bad insult to begin with. There’s so many more creative ways to insult and mock terfs, beginning with the obvious lack of any sort of fucking logic in the garbage they put out.
Making them feel stupid will be much better than childishly saying “despite universal human rights (which you’re not even in favour of), I think you don’t deserve to live because you’re stupid and hateful, so please take this poison or jump in a river with some stones tied to your feet, but physically, end your life. I don’t want you to be alive anymore, but I also realise me killing you myself would be criminal. Honestly I just want you to stop spreading hate, but even when you’re not willing to do that, I’m still sure you’ll take my advice on actually ending your own life.”
I believe you’d use “kill yourself” as a childish insult, but I’d like to see you seriously advocating someone actually killing themselves. You could even bring them a knife to do it, couldn’t you?
I’m not cisgender, btw, and I’ve had years of depression and seeing kids just toss “kys” around that fucking lightly pisses me the fuck off, because I’ve heard it plenty. A few times made me think that I’ll go and slit my wrists in front of some of those. I’ve some 20cm long scars on both my wrists.
Please think of the things you write to, no matter what a shitty person you’re writing to. How would we even win if we stoop down to their level?
“If you can’t respect me pretending like I’d have the courage to actually watch someone kill themselves because I said so, you’re not my ally”
I respect your passion to fight terf cunts. I do. BUT I don’t respect anyone saying “kys” specially with the acronym or euphemisms.
There’s very much a reason it’s banned in the TOS.
The same reason we can’t advocate murdering the ultra-wealthy. Which is why we say “eat the rich”, not “kill the rich”, because while both imply dead rich people, the former projects the reason for this “threat”.
It’s paradoxical that good guys have to gimp themselves with rules and morality while “the enemy” doesn’t give a fuck about it, but it is what it is.
Hate spreads hate. I don’t hate terfs, I’m disgusted and disappointed in them as humans. They sicken me, but I don’t want hateful people to make me feel hate. It’s consumed a large part of my life and completely in vain.
Anger is a good motivator for acting, and I’m often angry at terfs, but I don’t hate them. I pity the sad fuckers, and no, I wouldn’t shed a tear if a busload drove off a cliff, but as an adult, especially one who’s had actual suicidal ideation, I can not in good conscience advocate for anyone to kill themselves.
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I’m not defending anyone.
I’m saying don’t advocate for people to kill themselves.
How is this so hard for you to comprehend?
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You’re literally saying I deserve to die over me saying follow the TOS that’s on all social media; don’t advocate for people to kill themselves.
Drooling with insults, seething in caps.
Take a look at what you’re doing.
Alright, after you apologized I was almost willing to look past these replies or at least leave it for the other mods make a decision here, because honestly I get it. It’s sort of a “paradox of tolerance” thing and I’m not unsympathetic…
But you’ve gone right back to telling someone who hasn’t done anything to you that they deserve death. Sorry, but we’re not having that here.