Hypocrisy doesn’t hurt people for whom the double standard is the objective. They won’t get embarrassed because they lack integrity, because they are desperate to show that they don’t have an ounce of it.
Well I agree, we should continue with this logic. Unironically get rid of gender discriminatory leagues. My gender has nothing to do with whether someone 2ft taller than me will destroy me at basketball. Or genetic reflexes differences, etc. The only way to separate people based on genetic ability would be to separate based on performance(and this of course disadvantages people of average performance because of genetics, but above average technique/training/etc.)
First, that’s already how many sports are, there’s an “open” league and a women’s league that exists because sexual dimorphism is a hell of a drug.
Second, skill-based classes present a different perverse incentive to intentionally under-perform in order to dominate a lower bracket rather than ascend to the bottom of a higher tier.
There’s not really a perfect solution as long as there are stakes beyond pride and good sportsmanship.
a women’s league that exists because sexual dimorphism is a hell of a drug.
Well yeah thats the thing, sex is one advantage, but so is a lot of the rest of genetics.
Second, skill-based classes present a different perverse incentive to intentionally under-perform in order to dominate a lower bracket rather than ascend to the bottom of a higher tier.
I just watched the 100m sprints and it looks like the black athletes have a natural advantage based on the fact that 90% of the competitors were black.
Hardly unfair though. Unfair advantage is men competing in women’s boxing or men competing in women’s weight lifting
luckily imane khelif is not a man. or trans. and most likely not even intersex. neither is there any evidence she has above average testosterone levels.
Agreed. It’s hilarious how little these people know about female boxing. Just a quick google search for top female boxers and you find ten women you have physiques equal or greater than Imane’s.
You know, we should do a follow up with their logic and dare them to propose a ban to black athletes for having unfair advantages too.
Which, um, used to be true?
Hypocrisy doesn’t hurt people for whom the double standard is the objective. They won’t get embarrassed because they lack integrity, because they are desperate to show that they don’t have an ounce of it.
Well I agree, we should continue with this logic. Unironically get rid of gender discriminatory leagues. My gender has nothing to do with whether someone 2ft taller than me will destroy me at basketball. Or genetic reflexes differences, etc. The only way to separate people based on genetic ability would be to separate based on performance(and this of course disadvantages people of average performance because of genetics, but above average technique/training/etc.)
First, that’s already how many sports are, there’s an “open” league and a women’s league that exists because sexual dimorphism is a hell of a drug.
Second, skill-based classes present a different perverse incentive to intentionally under-perform in order to dominate a lower bracket rather than ascend to the bottom of a higher tier.
There’s not really a perfect solution as long as there are stakes beyond pride and good sportsmanship.
Most people that argue for making all sports open like this don’t seem to realize how much testosterone does for muscle growth.
Take the best 150lbs male boxer vs best 150lbs female boxer. Fight will be over in three hits and the woman would be half dead.
Take the best male boxer and me, fight will be over in 3 hits and I’ve be half dead.
Same. Are we both girls?
nope xd
Well yeah thats the thing, sex is one advantage, but so is a lot of the rest of genetics.
Agreed
Too many billionaires own basketball teams for this to fly.
Not a ban, but I’d like to hear the arguments against a black only swimming category.
I’ll start:-
I just watched the 100m sprints and it looks like the black athletes have a natural advantage based on the fact that 90% of the competitors were black.
Hardly unfair though. Unfair advantage is men competing in women’s boxing or men competing in women’s weight lifting
luckily imane khelif is not a man. or trans. and most likely not even intersex. neither is there any evidence she has above average testosterone levels.
Agreed. It’s hilarious how little these people know about female boxing. Just a quick google search for top female boxers and you find ten women you have physiques equal or greater than Imane’s.