In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like “maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don’t see it on Lemmy.” Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don’t see racism even when they’re looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. … but that wasn’t really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you’ve seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

  • @[email protected]
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    213 months ago

    Funny that not one example of racism existed in that post and you were asked multiple times to point it out, yet never did despite claiming it was in there.

    How about you share an example of this “anti-Blackness in this thread”?

    • @Lost_My_Mind
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      263 months ago

      My sister is the type that most would call “A Karen”. She finds problems when no problems exist. She’s not racist. The problems she finds are just mundane things that she uses to become angry over.

      She ordered the fish at a resteraunt, and then when the waitress brought what she wanted, she complained that it was frozen fish. The waitress asked to clairify how she knew it wasn’t cooked if she hadn’t taken a bite yet, and my sister clairified that she was upset that this was a previously frozen fish, rather than a caught fresh fish from the lake.

      She made no attempt to ask about this when ordering. She just threw a $100 bill on the table, and stormed off leaving the rest of the family behind.

      When we were kids, she cried at my mom that her oreo had a crack in it. So she refused to eat it. So I ate it. Now she was crying that I ate her oreo.

      My point is, there are people in life who LOOK for problems. And it’s like I tell my sister, if you look for problems, you’ll find pronlems. If you look for solutions you just might find help.

      And it seems to me that OP here is looking for problems when they are so miniscule, that the rest of us are having difficulty finding proof of their existence.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      33 months ago

      They said you’re not supposed to ask for it. You have to “do the work” and go find it on your own, like Sherlock Holmes. Pssh, it’s like you didn’t even read it.

    • The Nexus of PrivacyOP
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      -203 months ago

      How about you look at this an other threads for the examples that others are describing?

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        83 months ago

        You made the accusation, the burden of proof is on you. Here’s what’s going to happen when you ask complete strangers who aren’t vested in what I imagine you think is activism to pour through millions of posts to find behavior you claim exists:

        • The Nexus of PrivacyOP
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          -23 months ago

          I’m not saying to pour through millions of posts, this one and the one I linked to have plenty of examples.

          • @danekrae
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            13 months ago

            I’m still waiting for an answer on you other post on anti-blackness.

            • The Nexus of PrivacyOP
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              -23 months ago

              I answered. And there are also some good examples of anti-Blackness in the comments here.

              • @danekrae
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                43 months ago

                No you just wrote that I should think about, what a black person would think about the comments in that thread, where I couldn’t find any.

                You wrote: “imagine a Black person reading this”

                How dare you assume my ethnicity…

                • The Nexus of PrivacyOP
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                  -33 months ago

                  Yes, I answered your question, you just didn’t like my answer.

                  If you can’t find them, then (like many people) that’s a sign you’re used to an environment where anti-Blackness is normalized. So, imagine a Black person reading this thread who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse. What comments would they think are dismissive of Black people?

                  It doesn’t make any assumptions about your ethnicity. If you are in fact a Black person who’s been targeted by racism on the fediverse but isn’t seeing it in that thread, it’s still a useful suggestion to step outside yourself and try to reading it as somebody else would,

                  • @danekrae
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                    43 months ago

                    And I asked you to help find the examples you rambled about. But no, you didn’t provide any. Because you can’t. Seeing things that aren’t there.

                    Actively achieving the opposite of what you want. Unless you are just trolling, in which case, good job…