Graphene OS has had just about enough of Google not doing more to make Android compatible with custom ROM projects.

TL;DR

  • Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
  • The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
  • Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.
  • @[email protected]English
    24•4 months ago

    I feel that the mobile world is ripe for disruption. There has not been excitement for new devices in a while from me and my friends who are all into tech. I remember 00s and early 10s where we used to discuss new devices all the time.

    Most of us are STUCK with Apple and Google because they have both built walled gardens. It is not just the apps, it is also moving away from open standards, moving away from even files. e.g., 10 years ago mp4 files used to hold all the metadata related to a TV Show/Movie so if you put that into a device (iTunes for example) it’ll have all the metadata, now this info is in a separate database. SMS for all it’s flaws was open, now google wants us to believe RCS is also open (LOL).

    This has led to a basic degradation in all the basics, echoing your example that it is impossible to find a decent music app.

    Even apples own music has has ACTIVELY DEGRADED. Bottom bar of apple music app was “Albums”, “Songs”, “Artists”, and “Playlists” and YOU COULD CHANGE THE BOTTOM BAR. Now it is literally “Home” == Ads, “Browse” == Ads (pls buy apple music), “Search” == Ads. and LITERALLY only 1 page called “Library” where you can access your own purchased library. Same happened with apple books.

    Android has seen similar shitty stuff, I remember being excited about actually FUN android games, tiny thief, vector, cut the rope, where is my water, etc. Now it is all ads, paywall nonsense.

    Not to mention the Today page of the Playstore ACTUALLY USED TO BE USEFULL for highlighting some apps. And is not LITERALLY ONLY F***** ADS.

    I feel/hope/pray that we have a SteveJobs 2007 type iPhone event around the corner, because everyone is ready for it.

    • @[email protected]English
      10•4 months ago

      There really is a dearth of choices. I’ve little love for Google’s version of android, mostly for privacy reasons.

      If I could get a decent phone that ran at reasonable speed for a tolerable price, without the tracking, I’d be willing to give it a go - and endure more than a few pain points.

      • @LemurEyesEnglish
        5•4 months ago

        Getting an “a” series pixel for a few hundred and going grapheneOS seems like a good option, no?

        • @HuleEnglish
          4•4 months ago

          I have tried it. Pixel 6a.

          My banking app works. That’s good.

          RCS messages don’t. Could live without that.

          Merlin bird ID doesn’t. Pain point all right, but I’ll live.

          My Galaxy Watch doesn’t. Probably not GrapheneOS’ fault, and I should buy a better watch, but that will only happen when this one dies.

          Now I use a pixel 7a with stock ROM. Everything works, and if I get sick of it, I can get back to GrapheneOS and it’s quirks…