So your mistakes in thinking I was talking about the EU is okay because Schengen is “close enough”?
from a non-schengen country, and that’s the kind of immigrants the right hate the most. Do you not get it?
Yeah. INSIDE the area there’s free movement. Once you’ve entered a Schengen country (with either residency or a Schengen visa), you’re free to travel within the Schengen area.
Who’s replying to me talking about open borders in Europe (or more precisely, the Schengen area.) If you’ve got yourself a Schengen visa, then you’ll be treated just the same as residents, being subjected to a border check on borders which cross non-Schengen to Schengen.
I think there’s s rather clear implication that these checks happen or not, based on how Western European you look to the border control. I’m saying it’s not how those borders work.
I’m saying it doesn’t work like this, which is what I think is what he was implying.
Most of those non-white people the right hate are outside europe. So they would have to go through border checks and immigration before getting a Schengen visa. This isn’t hard bro.
The tactics conservatives use has more to do with legally obtaining a visa for example by restricting which nationalities are eligible. It should never be based on the meme from a TV show. You’re taking a family guy joke too literally lol.
So to recap; this is a thread about my comment saying we Europeans enjoy open borders.
Someone argued that Western Europeans get to enjoy this free movement without harassment, but that “certain” people don’t.
Now you’ve moved the goalposts all the way to “no but you don’t know how much right wing policy has actually increased scrutiny of specific groups within the Schengen visa applications”, when in the last comment it was “you’ll be subjected to border control and immigration”?
Before that it was “what you’re saying is irrelevant to the thread.” Which happens to be mine.
Europe enjoys free borders, in the West and the East.
He explicitly stated Western Europeans would get treated differently, implying “a random security screening” would be less likely with a “western European” face.
So your mistakes in thinking I was talking about the EU is okay because Schengen is “close enough”?
Yeah. INSIDE the area there’s free movement. Once you’ve entered a Schengen country (with either residency or a Schengen visa), you’re free to travel within the Schengen area.
Do you not get it?
That’s not what the guy was talking about. You keep talking about something that’s irrelevant.
“The guy”? My dude, you’re in a thread that I started, so I beg to differ.
This guy: https://lemmy.world/comment/11731391
Who’s replying to me talking about open borders in Europe (or more precisely, the Schengen area.) If you’ve got yourself a Schengen visa, then you’ll be treated just the same as residents, being subjected to a border check on borders which cross non-Schengen to Schengen.
I think there’s s rather clear implication that these checks happen or not, based on how Western European you look to the border control. I’m saying it’s not how those borders work.
I’m saying it doesn’t work like this, which is what I think is what he was implying.
Most of those non-white people the right hate are outside europe. So they would have to go through border checks and immigration before getting a Schengen visa. This isn’t hard bro.
Again, there’s a standard border check. Unless you’re a refugee without papers, you’ll have gotten your visa before actually walking up to the check.
It’s not a subjective “check those brown people.” It’s a “papers please”, for everyone.
You don’t go through border checks and immigration when applying for a visa.
The tactics conservatives use has more to do with legally obtaining a visa for example by restricting which nationalities are eligible. It should never be based on the meme from a TV show. You’re taking a family guy joke too literally lol.
So to recap; this is a thread about my comment saying we Europeans enjoy open borders.
Someone argued that Western Europeans get to enjoy this free movement without harassment, but that “certain” people don’t.
Now you’ve moved the goalposts all the way to “no but you don’t know how much right wing policy has actually increased scrutiny of specific groups within the Schengen visa applications”, when in the last comment it was “you’ll be subjected to border control and immigration”?
Before that it was “what you’re saying is irrelevant to the thread.” Which happens to be mine.
Europe enjoys free borders, in the West and the East.
He explicitly stated Western Europeans would get treated differently, implying “a random security screening” would be less likely with a “western European” face.