Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has expressed his support for Ukraine’s incursion into Russia’s Kursk Oblast and has called on Ukraine’s partners to lift all restrictions on Ukraine using Western-supplied weapons.
The only problem I see is that it’s escalatory. If Ukraine starts using Western-supplied weapons for offensive operations, this situation goes from supplying war material for defense (under-the-table proxy war) to full-on overt proxy war. Russia will spin this as “NATO is using Ukraine to attack us” (though they’re probably doing that already).
I can’t see how this won’t lead to a wider conflict.
There IS a full scale war going on.
31,000 confirmed dead Ukranian soldiers, and up to 120,000 dead Russian soldiers. We don’t even have a good idea how many civilian deaths, but the total death toll could be as high as 500,000.
And no, before you start - Mutually Assured Destruction isn’t “a full scale war”. Its Annihilation of both sides, and has no precedent in the history of war.
Putin can’t even hold his own territory. I don’t think even he would open another front by attacking a NATO member even if the west started greenlighting their weapons be used in the incursion.
We already crossed many times their “red lines”. This is just the good old “China’s Final Warning”.
They are already barely managing to slowly advance against a single foe, which is still transitioning between the old soviet warfare ways toward NATO’s one, with far less soldiers, I doubt they would ever hold against the full alliance firepower.
The only problem I see is that it’s escalatory. If Ukraine starts using Western-supplied weapons for offensive operations, this situation goes from supplying war material for defense (under-the-table proxy war) to full-on overt proxy war. Russia will spin this as “NATO is using Ukraine to attack us” (though they’re probably doing that already).
I can’t see how this won’t lead to a wider conflict.
They already use that rhetoric for a long time.
I’m sure you’re right.
How do we use our understanding of that, and the way that they operate, to avoid a full scale war?
There IS a full scale war going on. 31,000 confirmed dead Ukranian soldiers, and up to 120,000 dead Russian soldiers. We don’t even have a good idea how many civilian deaths, but the total death toll could be as high as 500,000.
And no, before you start - Mutually Assured Destruction isn’t “a full scale war”. Its Annihilation of both sides, and has no precedent in the history of war.
Full scale in the sense that Putin gets NATO involved.
Putin can’t even hold his own territory. I don’t think even he would open another front by attacking a NATO member even if the west started greenlighting their weapons be used in the incursion.
If Nato got involved directly Moscow would be leveled in a month.
Aaaannnd . . . ?
We already crossed many times their “red lines”. This is just the good old “China’s Final Warning”.
They are already barely managing to slowly advance against a single foe, which is still transitioning between the old soviet warfare ways toward NATO’s one, with far less soldiers, I doubt they would ever hold against the full alliance firepower.
Wasn’t invading Ukraine escalatory in the first place?
K. Russia cant even defend itself from Ukraine. Lets transition to the find out stage.
If only Russia left Ukraine, everything would be much easier…
Bro fucking russian troll, stfu
You can thank Putin for making it go this far.
Time he pays the piper.
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