• @rottingleaf
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    827 days ago

    The fediverse exists in the web, while they exist in the reality and command police, people in airports and train stations, military, internet service providers, etc.

    • wanderingmagus
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      327 days ago

      That’s why we should follow the example of the French and do a Revolution every now and then!

      • @rottingleaf
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        327 days ago

        Revolutions are destructive and have bad potential. But a certain degree of unchecked chaos is useful.

    • @[email protected]
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      326 days ago

      I would argue that the web is part of reality - it’s our main method of communication. It might be small but I think it’s a good example of successful self-organisation away from government/business/finance.

      • @rottingleaf
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        326 days ago

        It might be small but I think it’s a good example of successful self-organisation away from government/business/finance.

        It’s definitely not small, and backbones and intercontinental cables and such are not self-organization.

        Late 90-s and early 00-s web, however were such an example. But they still relied on benevolence of ICQ and AIM owners, OS vendors, organizations making standards.

        • @[email protected]
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          125 days ago

          Sorry, I was referring the Fediverse while you were referring to the internet as a whole. Limitations of written communication and all that!

          • @rottingleaf
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            125 days ago

            OK, then fediverse still relies on PKI.

              • @rottingleaf
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                124 days ago

                Public key infrastructure, but specifically - the current centralized system with root certificates which everyone trusts, that the Web uses.