And libertarians in effect would take votes AWAY from trump
Oh so you do believe in spoiler candidates? What’s your defense for constant third party and green party advocacy if you know it’s a statistical fact that spoiler effect exists?
No, I don’t believe in it. I was using the argument that you all throw at me every single day. :) And I find it hilarious that you all think it’s ok, when it happens to the Republicans, just not when it happens to YOUR party. lol
No, I don’t believe in it. I was using the argument that you all throw at me every single day
So you were using an argument you don’t even believe just to try and win an argument because you can’t defend your real position? That’s incredibly bad faith.
when it happens to the Republicans, just not when it happens to YOUR party
Yes, literally anything that breaks voters from the Republican party is good, and everything that breaks voters away from Democrats is bad. That’s because the Republicans are full of fascists hell bent on destroying American democracy, and the Democrats are the only credible thing standing against them.
No, I was pointing out the hypocrisy that’s being shown in people who use that argument
Bullshit, there’s nothing in that comment to indicate it was sarcasm, and the “I’m pulling from Republicans too but that doesn’t fit your narrative” defence goes directly against what you’re now saying.
I respect and support your right to an opinion
There were once people who had the opinion that it was moral to own other people. There were once people who had the opinion that other people should be marched into camps to be gassed and burned. Not all opinions are equal, and some opinions, such as those, deserve to be called abhorrent and fascist.
is half of the country “fascists” now? lol
Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on gay people this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on trans people this last decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on immigrants this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on Muslims this past decade? Did you not see the last Republican president try desperately to overturn the results of a free and fair election before finally inciting an insurrection? Did you not hear him say he’ll be a dictator and suspend the constitution next time if elected?
There are some Republicans who still respect America’s institutions, such as Pence and Romney, but they’ve been effectively expelled from the party. Trumpian Fascism now rules the Republican base by a majority, you just need to look at their primary results this year to see that’s the case.
There were once people who had the opinion that it was…
So do you support and respect my right to have an opinion that is different than yours? Because I respect and value your right to have an opinion that is different than mine.
Trumpian Fascism now rules the Republican base by a majority, you just need to look at their primary results this year to see that’s the case.
So as I asked earlier, is half of the country fascist now?
Do you think all Republicans are fascists?
Because I don’t. And I’m not Republican, and I don’t vote Republican.
So do you support and respect my right to have an opinion that is different than yours?
Sure if your opinion doesn’t directly lead to the rise of fascism. Oh wait, you repeatedly post leftist third party advocacy in the middle of the election to decide Fascism or Democracy?
No I don’t respect that opinion and seemingly almost no one here does, that’s why your hundreds of posts and comments on your two week old account have been down voted to hell.
Do you think all Republicans are fascists?
Anyone who still supports Trump after a decade of his rhetoric and actions is a Fascist. I repeat again:
Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on gay people this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on trans people this last decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on immigrants this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on Muslims this past decade? Did you not see the last Republican president try desperately to overturn the results of a free and fair election before finally inciting an insurrection? Did you not hear him say he’ll be a dictator and suspend the constitution next time if elected?
Nice job ignoring me pointing out your bad faith argument by the way.
And for the record, I don’t hate Russia as much as people in this community do. I know that fact may wind some people up, but it’s the truth. We are still a country based on freedoms of opinion, and there is no law that says I HAVE to hate Russia or it’s people.
I never said she was a Russian agent, I’m just reflecting on the company she keeps. She chose to stay, chose to listen. Chose to dine with them. We know that for certain. It reasonably opens the door to further concern.
I’m sure she would explain the presence away, that’s no defence. Same as trump would have some oh so benign explanation for why he was on Epstein’s jet.
Oh, you’re voting for trump too lol
Nah, I did just post a libertarian article. And libertarians in effect would take votes AWAY from trump. https://lemmy.world/post/18907042
That doesn’t really fit the narrative that a lot of Lemmys seem to want for me though. lol
Oh so you do believe in spoiler candidates? What’s your defense for constant third party and green party advocacy if you know it’s a statistical fact that spoiler effect exists?
No, I don’t believe in it. I was using the argument that you all throw at me every single day. :) And I find it hilarious that you all think it’s ok, when it happens to the Republicans, just not when it happens to YOUR party. lol
So you were using an argument you don’t even believe just to try and win an argument because you can’t defend your real position? That’s incredibly bad faith.
Yes, literally anything that breaks voters from the Republican party is good, and everything that breaks voters away from Democrats is bad. That’s because the Republicans are full of fascists hell bent on destroying American democracy, and the Democrats are the only credible thing standing against them.
No, I was pointing out the hypocrisy that’s being shown in people who use that argument. It’s not really that deep, friend.
In YOUR view. I respect and support your right to an opinion, but not every one has the same opinion as you. Including about half of the country.
s half of the country “fascists” now? lol
Bullshit, there’s nothing in that comment to indicate it was sarcasm, and the “I’m pulling from Republicans too but that doesn’t fit your narrative” defence goes directly against what you’re now saying.
There were once people who had the opinion that it was moral to own other people. There were once people who had the opinion that other people should be marched into camps to be gassed and burned. Not all opinions are equal, and some opinions, such as those, deserve to be called abhorrent and fascist.
Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on gay people this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on trans people this last decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on immigrants this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on Muslims this past decade? Did you not see the last Republican president try desperately to overturn the results of a free and fair election before finally inciting an insurrection? Did you not hear him say he’ll be a dictator and suspend the constitution next time if elected?
There are some Republicans who still respect America’s institutions, such as Pence and Romney, but they’ve been effectively expelled from the party. Trumpian Fascism now rules the Republican base by a majority, you just need to look at their primary results this year to see that’s the case.
So do you support and respect my right to have an opinion that is different than yours? Because I respect and value your right to have an opinion that is different than mine.
So as I asked earlier, is half of the country fascist now?
Do you think all Republicans are fascists?
Because I don’t. And I’m not Republican, and I don’t vote Republican.
Sure if your opinion doesn’t directly lead to the rise of fascism. Oh wait, you repeatedly post leftist third party advocacy in the middle of the election to decide Fascism or Democracy? No I don’t respect that opinion and seemingly almost no one here does, that’s why your hundreds of posts and comments on your two week old account have been down voted to hell.
Anyone who still supports Trump after a decade of his rhetoric and actions is a Fascist. I repeat again:
Nice job ignoring me pointing out your bad faith argument by the way.
No I’m not. I’m actually voting for Jill Stein. But thanks for assuming an entirely wrong thing just because you’re mad!
No, like, you are, implicitly.
No, like, I’m not. Literally or implicitly.
If I wanted to vote for Trump, I’d vote for my Trump. Which by the way, I have every single right to do, as an American citizen.
But I’m not voting for him. I’m voting for Jill Stein. I respect your right to vote for whoever you want to, please respect mine.
I do respect it, and the implicit value action it causes. Enjoy your vote, both on paper, and in consequence.
I recommend reading about game theory in outcome constrained systems.
Also, as sprinkles and toppings:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna742696
For non link clickers:
From 2015:
Oh, I will, thank you! I respect and support your right to vote for who you want to as well.
And that photo has been around a long time, and doesn’t bother me at all. It does nothing to change my mind.
Plus, it’s already been covered and addressed in a newsweek article:
https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620
I’m still happy and proud to vote for her. :).
And for the record, I don’t hate Russia as much as people in this community do. I know that fact may wind some people up, but it’s the truth. We are still a country based on freedoms of opinion, and there is no law that says I HAVE to hate Russia or it’s people.
Nobody hates Russia, they hate Putin, and his regime. Aside from Jill that is.
Edit the point is the dinner itself represents no wing doing, but as the article mentions it’s about the company you keep.
Similar to this , since you like Newsweek:
https://www.newsweek.com/photo-trump-epstein-resurfaces-after-jd-vance-fox-news-1941065
If you really think stein is on the level after such interactions and social proximity, then that’s the most telling thing about your choices so far.
And if not Putin, Michael fucking Flynn is there which also speaks to the character of the crowd
She explained why she was there. And I have no issues with her. So no, I don’t think she’s working for or with Russia.
I never said she was a Russian agent, I’m just reflecting on the company she keeps. She chose to stay, chose to listen. Chose to dine with them. We know that for certain. It reasonably opens the door to further concern.
I’m sure she would explain the presence away, that’s no defence. Same as trump would have some oh so benign explanation for why he was on Epstein’s jet.