The crypto industry is making its mark on this year’s elections to the tune of some $119 million.

The funding has largely come from two companies — Coinbase and Ripple — which are funneling money into super PACs like Fairshake PAC, which is dedicated to “elevating pro-crypto candidates and attacking crypto skeptics,” according to Public Citizen.

At the 2024 bitcoin conference in Nashville in February, Trump — who called bitcoin “highly volatile and based on thin air” in 2019 — said he’d lay out a plan “to ensure that the United States will be the crypto capital of the planet and the bitcoin superpower of the world.” Trump has already won the backing of several crypto enthusiasts, including his running mate JD Vance, who owns at least $250,000 in bitcoin.

  • @JiveTurkey
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    The new currency that’s backed by the old currency and uses a shit ton more electricity. What a time to be alive.

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      • @uienia
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        Without old currency it is completely worthless.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          Without old currency denomination. But as soon as you can start clearing debts with crypto, its effectively a third-party printable currency that the federal government has endorsed.

          • @thallamabond
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            Is “clearing debts with crypto” ≈" buying stuff with crypto"?

            • @UnderpantsWeevil
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              It’s “paying loans and fees with crypto”. Specifically, “paying government loans and fees”, which makes the state an insatiable consumer of a third-party currency and gives it real implicit value.

      • @KazuyaDarklight
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        274 months ago

        They aren’t paying these politicians off in Bitcoin.

      • @[email protected]
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        The entire crypto industry is basically propped up by the existence of Tether, which is (notionally) backed by the US dollar.

        Without Tether you lose any remaining institutional investment. Big companies want to be able to trade in crypto but they don’t want to hold crypto, because it’s volatile, and convertong fiat to crypto takes too long for effective trading. Tether is the middle man.

        So yes, since Tether basically facilitates all meaningful crypto trading, and Tether is supposedly just tokenized USD, their statement about crypto being backed by the old money is perfectly cromulent.

      • @JiveTurkey
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        Do you think there isn’t a blood cost for electricity?

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          Which includes mining all the rare materials used in manufacturing the GPUs and ASICs (that we’re actually running out of) .

        • @[email protected]
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          I was referencing the FIAT system. I’m sure you’ll agree there’s much more blood cost (in terms of lives ruined and indirect life lost), although it’s harder to directly relate.

          • @Fedizen
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            dang bro, its a good thing crypto solves any of the problems with fiat currency and doesn’t introduce a bunch of new ones like reliance on data centers, power and water requirements, long transaction times and it becomes useless when you lose network connection.

          • @JiveTurkey
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            I do agree but imo the power consumption is a flaw of Bitcoin and should have been addressed upfront. There has to be a better way.

            • Blaster M
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              Etherium and proof of stake instead of proof of work

              • @alienanimals
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                They’re not intelligent enough to realize their arguments are outdated.

              • @Fedizen
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                how is proof of stake not an easy target for regulators and how is that model significantly different than a very slow credit card transaction?

                • Blaster M
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                  Way less power consumption as it doesn’t work by “mining” (grinding a super hard math problem) with 11 jillion gpus.

      • magic_lobster_party
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        There’s a huge difference.

        Fediverse uses almost no energy compared to Reddit and Twitter. This is because few people are using fediverse alternatives.

        Bitcoin uses more energy than entire countries, despite few people using it.

        • @uienia
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          And also the fediverse serves a purpose. Crypto is just a shortsighted pyramid scheme fueled by greed.

          • @rayyy
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            Crypto is bound to attract scammers like flies are attracted to shit.

          • @[email protected]
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            Crypto is not all about short-term gains and it does have utility. It’s just not an answer to everything, and we should stop treating it like a speculative asset.

            • @[email protected]
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              we should stop treating it like a speculative asset.

              If it were to stop acting like a speculative asset more people might take it seriously.

              • @[email protected]
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                If it were to stop acting like a speculative asset, nobody would be using it.

                It is all just perpetrated by tech bros who try to get rich from it. Their crypto portfolio is directly connected to the amount of people they can convince to buy in.

                • @jumjummy
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                  Exactly, and if somehow it became impossible to instantly convert crypto to USD, crypto would be worthless. Crypto doesn’t have enough actual utility on its own besides gray/black market purposes.

          • @[email protected]
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            No, you don’t. The same way I don’t have to justify using nextcloud vs gdrive because nextcloud uses a lot more energy per user since it’s self hosted.

            Bitcoin uses an absurd amount of energy for its popularity and use. Period.

          • magic_lobster_party
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            and you’d have the same problem cryptocurrency has.

            No, that’s not going to happen. The reason why cryptocurrencies must rely on a consensus algorithm is because the order of transactions matter. One transaction can make another transaction impossible depending on which one comes first.

            Fediverse doesn’t have this strict condition. No post and comment can make another impossible. It’s also not the entire world if a post is lost.

      • @Takumidesh
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        Decentralization isn’t the reason, and conflating it with fediverse services is disingenuous.

        The reason many cryptos use a lot of power is because of proof of work.

        Proof of stake and proof of work have the same effective result for voting power. In order to effectively mine, you need a large capital investment and in order to stay competitive in mining you need to continue spending capital, the same is true for proof of stake as the larger overall stake the lower the payouts, so it requires more capital investment.

      • @[email protected]
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        Can’t tell if this is shill, but I dislike cryptocurrencies and anyone who defends them. Not that you did, per se, but it’s close.

          • Flying Squid
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            You can buy a gift card in cash which works just like a debit card and not have to worry about cryptocurrency.

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                I thought this was about VPNs?

                Which bank accepts crypto to pay back student loans anyway?

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                  they didn’t say a bank specifically,

                  I had to pay student loans in another country, but my bank blocked the credit card transactions because they were foreign. The only other way was cryptocurrency with a tiny fee, or a bank transaction with 10% plus 50$ fees. Guess which one I picked.

                  Gift cards that act like credit/debit cards are harder to get than they used to be. I think all of the mainstream ones require identification or linking to a previous bank account per regulation now

                  The prepaid card issuer is required by law to verify your identity for most types of prepaid accounts. You may be asked to provide your full name, street address (no P.O. boxes), date of birth, and Social Security number, taxpayer identification number, or another identification number. (link)

          • @[email protected]
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            To your point about money transfers, this is only true because crypto exchanges are dodging regulations. The cost and time involved in international transfers is primarily red tape, because no one likes wire fraud, money laundering, or people funding terrorism.

            If crypto ever “succeeds” as it hopes to, it will become more and more regulated, and the value you see in it will increasingly diminish.

          • subignition
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            I wonder whether a travel notification could have solved your issue with paying a foreign merchant.