• @wurstgulasch3000
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    20 days ago

    If you do, start with TNG. And maybe even skip the first 3-4 episodes of that and watch them later

    • @[email protected]
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      220 days ago

      Hell, skip the first two seasons. If someone offered me $1M and I could never watch the first two seasons of TNG ever again, I’d take it without hesitation.

      No, not even Measure of a Man. It’s legally and philosophically nonsense.

      • @[email protected]
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        620 days ago

        Really? You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, but imo Measure of a Man is an incredible acting showcase and a strong premise to display Federation values. Every time I’ve wanted to get someone into TNG, it’s one of my first recommendations and it usually works. What are your complaints about it?

        • @[email protected]
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          720 days ago

          Legal Eagle covers the legal issues with it:

          https://youtu.be/XVjeYW6S8Mo?si=qdE-MT3S3LSbEfxw

          The whole trial probably should never have happened. Star Fleet implicitly accepted Data’s self determination by accepting his application to the Academy. Plus, if Maddox thought positronic nets weren’t a giant leap in artificial consciousness, why would he be so interested in Data at all?

          The legal issues overlap with some of the philosophical issues. There’s a long history of investigation into intelligence and consciousness, and none of it is on display in the episode. It’s not even a very good introduction to the topic.

          This is rather important to today’s issues with AI. While I think current AI tech is vastly overhyped, some of the popular arguments against it are just bad.

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          119 days ago

          Right? I’ve always thought delving into the nuance of sentience and the potential legal conundrums posed by dated views and laws in that scope was absolutely peak Trek. It’s about ethics and morality, and figuring out how to do the best you can, and afford sentience the respect that it universally deserves, with the knowledge that you currently have at hand. It’s actually something of a trope in the ST universe. Literally every series in the franchise has at least one “courtroom” episode. While they’re not all great, I think it’s a good tradition to uphold.

    • @tamal3
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      119 days ago

      Wait wait wait, deep space 9 all the way! Rewatching now. Still amazing.