• HEXN3T
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      1. Best trackpads. By far. Gaming? Use a controller. I will die on this hill.
      2. All of their OSes are a great user experience. They’re stable, they’re intuitive, and–most importantly–they’re aesthetically pleasing.
      3. Logic Pro.
      4. Actually, basically every app that Apple makes is pretty good. I would swap out the majority of the software on my Pixel for Apple apps if it wasn’t proprietary and exclusive.
      5. iPhone videos are outstanding. My Pixel can’t match my old 13 Pro’s video, and it’s a newer phone. Photos are also slightly worse here, but not after some editing.
      6. Objectively better build quality if you ignore planned obscelecense. My MacBook just feels well built. It feels sturdy and durable even if a speck of dust can kill the display, and every factor of the build is just better than anything else available. Phones are mostly up to spec, but my Pixel just doesn’t feel as nice as my old iPhone, especially the objectively worse button and camera layout.

      Mostly everything else? No. I can’t install cool FOSS projects on my phone, or know what’s running on it. I prefer Linux as an OS, but not any DE compared to macOS. I’ve also had some periods where stuff doesn’t just work, such as iCloud fucking my free space and wiping almost my entire system when I try to fix the issue as per instructions I was given by an employee. Then, there’s just that Apple is gross. I don’t need to explain that, or anything about repair. Else… the closed source software is excellent closed source software. The unrepairable, proprietary hardware is excellent hardware.

      They’re just a few steps from being better than any other company or project… a couple of several thousand mile long steps.

      • @MotoAsh
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        Number one is because they’ve patented the trackpad sol noone else can use the newer style. Number 6 is madecompletely moot by the high price and the fact that many other vendors have laptops with BETTER build quality. Especially if you factor in all the engineering missteps they seem to constantly make.

        Doubt me? Just look up Luis Rossman teardown videos. He’ll show you actual macs from customers, that he takes appart onscreen, and shows you exactly how Apple makes extremely basic engineering mistakes.

        Don’t like him? Look up anyone else that gets under the hood of Apple products without being in Apple’s cultish parts program.

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          …The speck of dust comment was, I kid you not, a direct reference to Louis Rossmann. I avoid GrapheneOS due to one of his videos. I use GrayJay. I suggest his repair store to others. The point is the outward build quality–the body–and not smaller internal components. Others are undeniably better… but my hands aren’t touching those components. They’re touching the shell. Keyboard. Trackpad. Glass. That was the point being made.

          In other words… ratio.

          EDIT: I’m searching Kagi for anything related to the trackpad comment… and this just seems unsubstantiated. Apple doesn’t own gestures. Nothing burger here. Quite a shame. I was ready for a heated debate, but dinner’s already been served.

        • @[email protected]
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          Other vendors with better build quality? Show me some examples with evidence.

          A louis rossman video is not evidence. All that tells us is that apple has made some mistakes in some of their products.

      • DominusOfMegadeus
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        Excellent summation, mate. I would have agreed with 2 even five years ago. Sadly not anymore.

        • HEXN3T
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          Yeah. I don’t have an iPhone anymore due to this downward trend. I still think macOS holds up well now, though, despite their insistence on killing off old app support for no reason.

          Also, I’m a musician. Linux has nothing up to par with Logic, and going Windows is utterly stupid. Best option right now, or I’m out my literal largest hobby… unless I start making stuff oldschool style.

          Not gonna lie. If I had the equipment and knowledge, I would.

    • @Carnelian
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      Macs are like uncannily good at real-time audio processing, also audio and MIDI routing in general has less friction. Less tinkering in general when connecting external synths

      Like with anything you can find tons of people online who have no issues with their windows based production setup, YMMV. But macs are ubiquitous in the music space, from my experience I think it’s deserved

    • Snot Flickerman
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      My Linux nerd friend swore by Intel Macs for recording/mixing music for years.

      He hasn’t tried the Apple silicon macs at all though.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’ve been in the unix and Linux world for 10 years now, with forays into administering windows when necessary.

        I currently write software for Linux hosts, I have tux tattooed on my chest, literally.

        Today the only laptop I’d purchase is an Apple silicon machine.

        The only thing I miss is i3.

    • @pressanykeynow
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      14 hours of lifetime on Macbook while also being silent is great.

    • @WraithGear
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      Um, being a status symbol, and um, its got some good software…