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An incident which saw two women lock a crying toddler in an aeroplane toilet has sparked an online debate in China on how to manage children in public spaces.
The incident went viral on the Chinese internet after one of the two women, Gou Tingting, posted a video of herself carrying the girl inside the cubicle.
In her post, she presented herself as trying to help others on board, but was swiftly met with backlash.
I saw a post yesterday berating a woman for wanting to give her toddler melatonin so it would sleep during a flight. Like, why is that a problem? We drug animals for flights all the time, it’s practically a requirement. Until the age of at least 5, kids are essentially animals with just as little self-control. Hell, even after that, they tend to have less control than well-trained dogs.
Especially age 2 and younger. A child that young is not going to understand what is happening. Being forced to sit and be quiet for several hours while the pressure fucks with their ears is basically torturing them. Not only do I think it’s ok to give them something that would help them sleep through it, I think it should be mandatory.
It should be noted that you really can’t overdose on melatonin. After a certain level, it has no more effect and is broken down and excreted.
You think drugging children should be mandatory because they might inconvenience you by making some noise?
You have issues.
That’s literally not at all what they said. They mentioned that it could potentially help the child through a torturous flight. Whether or not that is indeed the case or not is at the very least a noteworthy discussion.
Being obtuse about it, is not helpful in any way.
A 2 year old child is extremely capable of understanding what a fucking plane is.
And no they are not “essentially animals” until 5. I teach young children and they are so much more capable than you are presenting them as.
I’m in healthcare, and often work with children. It doesn’t matter if they do or don’t understand something, they don’t have the emotional regulation to continue with something uncomfortable.
I don’t blame parents wanting to increase the sleepiness of a child prior to something like a long plane trip.
8+ is the age I see the majority of children being able to grin and bear it, and to be reasoned with.
You see on Lemmy, it’s okay to say children are “essentially animals”, unless it’s in the context of Israel referring to infants in Gaza as essentially animals. The fucking crazy shit that gets upvoted in Lemmy vs reddit is weird. It’s like a giant reading group of edgy undergrads in here most of the time.
What the fuck does this have to do with reddit?
The bullshit that gets upvoted/downvoted here, does not get that on reddit. It’s really weird to see some of the cultural differences between the two platforms in terms of user base.
I don’t think this level of bullshit would fly in the reddit equivalent of r/worldnews
Why do people try to say people aren’t animals. People are animals their entire lives. We aren’t plants, or lamps, or airplanes. I have chickens that behave better than many people. Never once has one gotten drunk and got in a fight, or had a yelling match with someone. They don’t get in car accidents and drive off, steal from stores, murder each other. Mine make so little noise I have to actively remember they are out back. I puppysat a dog for 12 days recently, not a single time did he try to overthrow the government or sue someone. Took 4 days to figure out he could bark. Humans are some of the worst animals around. We murder and rape and destroy ecosystems out of greed or boredom. I had a bacon cheeseburger recently. That means I enslaved a cow to steal it’s milk for cheese, slaughtered another for the beef and had a pig felled for the bacon. I don’t even think bacon on a burger makes it better, I just didn’t want to hurt the persons feelings who suggested/made it.
~end rant… strange thing to ramble about at 2am