• @cogman
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    1019 days ago

    Got it, so you are emotionally defining veganism in such a way that you aren’t actually vegan if you don’t get there for emotional reasons.

    If that’s your definition of veganism then of course nobody can get there with reason. You’ve created a tautology with your emotion filled definition.

    For the record, veganism is defined by MW as

    : a strict vegetarian who consumes no food (such as meat, eggs, or dairy products) that comes from animals

    also : one who abstains from using animal products (such as leather)

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vegan

    That was the definition I was operating under. Sorry I didn’t Intuit your arbitrary definition you pulled from “eat meat.com” or whatever you got it.

    • @Resonosity
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      018 days ago

      They got that definition from The Vegan Society, the leading charity/group representing the movement.

    • @[email protected]
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      Ah yes, merriam webster, the most informed and accurate source on the subject of veganism lol. The fact that you don’t know where my definition comes from tells everything one needs to know about your involvement in the community 🤷‍♂️

      • @cogman
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        Here’s a quote from the site you cherry picked

        Some people may choose to go vegan, for some it may be because they do not believe in farmed animal practices and animal exploitation, for others it may be due to environmental concerns. Whatever the reason The Vegan Society is here to support everyone on their vegan journey.

        Gee, looks like the vegan society also recognizes some people become vegan because of climate change… Or maybe you are going to redefine more terms so you can win your argument.

      • @cogman
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        719 days ago

        Or maybe you are pulling a definition not commonly accepted by the community or English speakers. No, that can’t be right, you are obviously smarter than I am. After all, you are a rational person that’d never engage in strawman attacks.

      • erin (she/her)
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        719 days ago

        Dude, what are you on about. Plenty of vegans I know go vegan because it’s better for the environment. That’s a big part of why I’m vegetarian. Why make it such an “us and them” dilemma? They’re just people, even if you don’t ascribe to their choices. It seems like you’re more concerned about being right than being correct.

        • @[email protected]
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          Plenty of vegans I know go vegan because it’s better for the environment.

          I’m sorry, but you’re unbelievably stupid.

          • @cogman
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            719 days ago

            Ad hominem: check.

            Don’t expect any rational choices here.

            Perhaps don’t cry about rationality if all you have in your brain is logical fallacies.

            • @[email protected]
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              218 days ago

              I’ve never seen this website before but it’s absolutely hilarious to point out the other person’s logical fallacy like that lol.