By buying a Pixel phone and degoogling it, you are rewarding good behaviour and punishing bad behaviour, corporations need to be trained like dogs.
Google is not going anywhere and their primary objective is profit. By buying a Pixel you are signaling to them a viable revenue stream that doesn’t violate people’s privacy.
You don’t even need to give money to google directly, you can buy a second hand-one.
Cause fuck Google, that’s why. I will likely indeed vote with my wallet, right now eyeing a fairphone with /e/OS but have not decided yet. It might not be the latest and greatest but I’m finding I don’t really use all the bells and whistles anyway. Give me email, web browsing, a basic camera, and maps, and that’s 90% of what I do on my phone so it looks like a suitable candidate. If I already had a google device then maybe Graphene is a great option, but I’m not further rewarding google by buying their spyware and having to mod it.
The problem with that is that pretty much only Graphene can offer a secure (locked boot loader) phone that is also private.
Edit: Some Phones like the Fairphone or Shift can still be locked.
I like Calyx quite a bit. It’s considerably more private than any stock Android out there. However, from my perspective, GrapheneOS is the best mobile os out there for security and privacy too, hands down.
I run GrapheneOS on my Pixel 8 Pro, tried Calyx back when I had the 6 Pro, and it pretty good and everything basically works, but GrapheneOS from the beginning is so vanilla, only has a couple of apps installed (phone, sms, Calc, files and such), everything else you need to choose to install.
And to add it is more sustainable to buy 2nd hand + can be anonymous + cheaper + Google works together with ifixit which at least makes repairs somewhat possible. Of course the Fairphone or similar phones are better in that regard.
Why not?
I say, vote with your wallet.
Cause fuck Google, that’s why. I will likely indeed vote with my wallet, right now eyeing a fairphone with /e/OS but have not decided yet. It might not be the latest and greatest but I’m finding I don’t really use all the bells and whistles anyway. Give me email, web browsing, a basic camera, and maps, and that’s 90% of what I do on my phone so it looks like a suitable candidate. If I already had a google device then maybe Graphene is a great option, but I’m not further rewarding google by buying their spyware and having to mod it.
The problem with that is that pretty much only Graphene can offer a secure (locked boot loader) phone that is also private. Edit: Some Phones like the Fairphone or Shift can still be locked.
CalyxOS also allows to relock bootloader on some devices (not sure if only Pixels though).
How does Calyx compare to Graphene privacy/security wise.
I like Calyx quite a bit. It’s considerably more private than any stock Android out there. However, from my perspective, GrapheneOS is the best mobile os out there for security and privacy too, hands down.
I run GrapheneOS on my Pixel 8 Pro, tried Calyx back when I had the 6 Pro, and it pretty good and everything basically works, but GrapheneOS from the beginning is so vanilla, only has a couple of apps installed (phone, sms, Calc, files and such), everything else you need to choose to install.
https://community.e.foundation/t/list-devices-where-bootloader-can-be-relocked/48424
Didn’t know that. Good to know. Thanks!
And to add it is more sustainable to buy 2nd hand + can be anonymous + cheaper + Google works together with ifixit which at least makes repairs somewhat possible. Of course the Fairphone or similar phones are better in that regard.