• @Broken_Monitor
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    Cause fuck Google, that’s why. I will likely indeed vote with my wallet, right now eyeing a fairphone with /e/OS but have not decided yet. It might not be the latest and greatest but I’m finding I don’t really use all the bells and whistles anyway. Give me email, web browsing, a basic camera, and maps, and that’s 90% of what I do on my phone so it looks like a suitable candidate. If I already had a google device then maybe Graphene is a great option, but I’m not further rewarding google by buying their spyware and having to mod it.

    • EherNicht
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      17 days ago

      The problem with that is that pretty much only Graphene can offer a secure (locked boot loader) phone that is also private. Edit: Some Phones like the Fairphone or Shift can still be locked.

      • youmaynotknow
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        416 days ago

        CalyxOS also allows to relock bootloader on some devices (not sure if only Pixels though).

        • sunzu2
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          115 days ago

          How does Calyx compare to Graphene privacy/security wise.

          • youmaynotknow
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            215 days ago

            I like Calyx quite a bit. It’s considerably more private than any stock Android out there. However, from my perspective, GrapheneOS is the best mobile os out there for security and privacy too, hands down.

            I run GrapheneOS on my Pixel 8 Pro, tried Calyx back when I had the 6 Pro, and it pretty good and everything basically works, but GrapheneOS from the beginning is so vanilla, only has a couple of apps installed (phone, sms, Calc, files and such), everything else you need to choose to install.

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      18 days ago

      And to add it is more sustainable to buy 2nd hand + can be anonymous + cheaper + Google works together with ifixit which at least makes repairs somewhat possible. Of course the Fairphone or similar phones are better in that regard.