AccidentalRenaissance has no active moderators due to Reddit’s unprecedented API changes, and has thus been privated to prevent vandalism.
Resignation letters:
Openminded_Skeptic - https://imgur.com/a/WwzQcac
VoltasPistol - https://imgur.com/a/lnHSM4n
We welcome you to join us in our new homes:
https://kbin.social/m/AccidentalRenaissance
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/accidentalrenaissance
Thank you for all your support!
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…why did they make two comms though when kbin and lemmy work together?
Maybe because, like me, they don’t understand the difference
For your reference: for all intents and purposes there isn’t one. Lemmy accounts can interact and follow kbin communities and vice versa. You don’t need accounts on both, though you can if you choose.
But are these actually the same communities?
Or do they count as separate ones on separate instances which uses created with that instance specific account?
I think they’re 2 spearate communities? Which does confuse things.
Although the link worked on Connect for the Lemmy one so that’s what I’ll be using anywau
You mean for this specific case? Yes, they’re two separate communities which is why it was disadvantageous to create a community on both kbin and Lemmy—if they made just one, that one community could share subscribers and comments and such from all Lemmy instances (that aren’t defederated) as well as kbin. They didn’t need to make separate accidentalrenaissance communities but they did.
I’m not a fan of the e-mail analogy overall, but here it works. It’s like they created a gmail account and an aol account, thinking only gmail accounts could email each other and only aol accounts could email each other. But really, if they made only a gmail account then both gmail and aol would be able to communicate easily.
I just subscribed to both and I’ll let time sort it out.
Same lmao
Maybe they went ahead and grabbed both, one will eventually become more popular and the popular one will stay running while they just have the other one directing people to the popular one.
Mods can set a community so only mods can post in it. They can make that change and leave a message redirecting everyone to the other community to consolidate it.
One mod team working on two communities. We may consolidate to one or the other at a later date.
We were honestly afraid that either Lemmy or Kbin would self-destruct so we wanted to have one to fall back on and we weren’t happy with how either handled images.
Imagine I have a ship in space and you have a ship and we share comms between us.
They should probably join Lemmy.world tbh
yeah… I think this exactly the kind of stuff that annoys people and discourages people to join. Now that they moved here they get told they did it wrong because they chose the wrong instance… despite everyone first saying it doesn’t matter and you shouldn’t think too hard about your choice because “federation, yay!”
What discourages people to join is not knowing which instance to join. Which is exactly how we got two communities branching off like this.
What discourages people from joining is acting like “federation Yay” is actually a selling point instead of a nuisance that you have to accept. Just look at the downvotes this got in minutes. How is that encouraging?
We setup on Blahaj because when we were trying to setup AccidentalRenaissance, we didn’t know we were one letter over the arbitrary 20 letter limit on community names, and there wasn’t even an error message for it, so we were pounding our heads against the wall trying to figure out why we couldn’t setup anywhere on any server.
And we didn’t make a big fuss about who we were either. We were just looking to setup an instance. Just some randos as far as anyone knew. So we asked for help.
The admins of Blahaj personally told us what the problem was and when I asked if it was an absolute limit they said it wasn’t, and raised their limit. Just for us. Some random-ass strangers. They changed their server just so someone wouldn’t have to shorten their name.
So that’s how Blahaj scored AccidentalRenaissance.
Given how many actual Renaissance artists were legitimately, deeply, obsessively queer? Yeah, it fits.
Why? It literally makes no difference.
Because it actually does make a difference an dthats why they started two communities on different instances.
Yes and no. Yes it’s good to have a larger presence as say the “canonical” sub, but on the other hand having them on smaller instances is overall the better play
This “smaller instance” has 6000 users and predates lemmy.world by 6 months.
To what end? The more spread out they are the less engagement they have and the sub flounders. Look at what happened to r/android. Went from being one of the largest communities on lemmy.world to puttering along on their new instance, losing a good chunk of users back to Reddit where everything is simple and in one place.
Betamax was the better play versus VHS, but we all know how that ended.
In social gatherings people will want to gather in the same place, and then maybe break off into smaller groups for more precise social interactions. That’s kind of the standard normal human thing.
The problem with Federation is it doesn’t honor that. It has everyone create small specific social gatherings on their own, and then having someone from each small gallery run between the different social gathering groups to share what each other is saying
I get on paper how Federation is the best way to go, and I do agree with that. The problem is the human population kind of want all people to all gather in one place, and not try to figure out where they have to gather at.
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I think you’re confusing products from the one that I mentioned…
Also, it’s a well-known fact that Betamax was a higher quality recording format, where VHS was a less quality but longer recording time format.
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As someone who owned a professional Sony Betamax machine, I disagree.
You can have that machine record at the highest quality setting that a VHS macjine couldn’t match, at least not until the very end of the production cycle war, when they added another mode to some VHS macjines for the higher quality but the shorter recording time.
It was a marketing ploy, it was the battle of quality versus quantity. And quantity won.
Because when this all happened, both had serious drawbacks and we were a bit afraid that either kbin or Lemmy might spontaneously combust altogether and we’d have nothing.
Our trust in social networks was not exactly great at that moment.
We might consolidate to one or the other in the future.