• @pyre
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    254 months ago

    I’m no vegan but that’s a common vegan talking point

    • Flying SquidM
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      64 months ago

      It is, but many vegans also do really unhelpful things that are closer to trying to berate or shame people into not eating meat and it is obviously not effective.

      • OBJECTION!
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        44 months ago

        Out of curiosity, how many people have you convinced to go vegan?

        • Flying SquidM
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          74 months ago

          None. Why do I have to convince a single person to criticize an argument I don’t think is convincing?

          • OBJECTION!
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            Well, I guess I’m just not sure why you’re trying to give us advice about something you have zero experience with.

            If I didn’t know better, I’d say that you don’t actually care what kind of approach is more convincing, and you’re just trying to tell us to shut up, or say things in a way that makes us easy to ignore.

            You have no idea what you’re talking about at best, and realistically, you don’t even want us to be successful. So, thank you for your unsolicited advice on which tacts are unhelpful, but, just so you know, I will be promptly tossing it into the trash.

            • Flying SquidM
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              54 months ago

              I have a lot of experience with people trying to convince me of things.

              And you are welcome to take the advice I didn’t give to you in the first place and throw it in the trash.

              • KillingTimeItself
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                04 months ago

                I have a lot of experience with people trying to convince me of things.

                how much experience do you have with people convincing you of things?

                  • KillingTimeItself
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                    04 months ago

                    well no that was people trying to convince you, i can try to convince you that the sky is yellow for example, but that’d be fucking stupid.

                    I’m just curious how many people have actually managed to convince you of something.

                  • KillingTimeItself
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                    14 months ago

                    if the original statement is useless (it’s not a question, so i’m not repeating it) then my question should be more useful in the context of that useless statement, considering i have a specific word removed that changes the entire meaning of the question.

      • Sunshine (she/her)
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        124 days ago

        You do not know the best advice for advocacy for a group without being part of it.

        You say you’re supportive of vegans but then go out of your way to say the “vegan cheese is gross”

        • Flying SquidM
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          124 days ago

          I know it may be hard to believe, but my taste in food is different from yours. I would never cook with vegan cheese. There are plenty of vegan recipes out there which don’t require processed fake food.

          • Sunshine (she/her)
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            124 days ago

            Taste is not a valid argument to harm bovines and there are many different types of vegan cheeses, you cannot generalize.

            There’s that antivegan language again “fake food”

            • Flying SquidM
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              Processed fake cheese is fake food.

              You don’t get it. Don’t use real cheese or fake cheese. Cook healthy things, not that processed shit. Why do you have to have some form of cheese?

              • Sunshine (she/her)
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                124 days ago

                You’re being culturally insensitive and uncivil. The processed plant-based food problem is overblown and fearmongered in the mainstream media in order to protect the interests of animal agriculture. Vegans want the taste of cheese without the cruelty involved.

                Easter eggs don’t have eggs in them so why call them that.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  This literally started with your incivility. And pretending I hate veganism because I think vegan cheese is gross does not make you sound like you’re saying something smart. Just so you know.

                  I think bananas are gross too. Does that mean I hate people who eat all fruit? Are people allowed to dislike eating things you like?

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          You do not know the best advice for advocacy for a group without being part of it.

          it’s possible they do

          there is nothing about being vegan that makes you suited for advocacy

      • @pyre
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        14 months ago

        no arguments there