Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

  • @Linkerbaan
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    -202 months ago

    Lmao of course this place is ran by hardcore war crime apologist PugJesus who advocates for jailing Edward Snowden and Julian Assagne.

        • @Olgratin_Magmatoe
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          52 months ago

          Sorry, but nothing in there even mentions jail, Assagne, or war crimes.

          • @Linkerbaan
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            -102 months ago

            Why obama wont pardon edward snowden

            What do you think it means to not pardon someone? It means jail.

            • @Olgratin_Magmatoe
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              In Snowden’s case not really. Him not getting pardoned just means he remains in exile. And I’m not even seeing anything in explicit support of that.

          • @PugJesusM
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            22 months ago

            Apparently thinking that Ed Snowden has better PR than intentions is a violation of dogma.

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              Maybe people who hold power are all conniving bastards to some degree, and all of them should have their dirty laundry aired.

              Makes me think lemmy tankies can’t admit even their saints are flawed humans, too, because that’d mean they could never become perfect and can’t bear ever being wrong.

              • @PugJesusM
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                22 months ago

                Please don’t air my dirty laundry 🥺

                Joking aside, I have two primary problems with Snowden.

                1. His leaks were not just of the moral variety, but also exposed US spycraft. That’s… not great.

                2. I would have been much more convinced of his idealism, even as a change of heart from his prior opinions, had he gone somewhere other than fucking Russia. You expect me to believe you’re too moral to stand by while the US spies on its own people, and then go and settle quietly under Putin’s regime? Moron, hypocrite, or actual authoritarian scumbag, it doesn’t matter to me at this point. I have no desire to see him jailed at this point, but he’s no hero to my eyes.

                • @TrickDacy
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                  -12 months ago

                  I’m pretty sure Snowden is very opposed to Putin and everything the Kremlin does. He knew he’d be safe there. It was a smart move, evidenced by the fact that over a decade later, the world’s richest government hasn’t arrested him. Do you agree with the politics of your country’s leaders? I certainly don’t, but that doesn’t make me immoral for living here.

                  • @PugJesusM
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                    I’m pretty sure Snowden is very opposed to Putin and everything the Kremlin does.

                    Ah, is that why he was pushing the “Ukrainian invasion is a Western psyop” line before February 24?

                    There are any number of countries without extradition treaties with the US, and many that have treaties and regularly refuse. Choosing the worst of them, a fascist state? Doesn’t look too good.

    • @PugJesusM
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      42 months ago

      Tell me more about how October 7 was Legitimate Resistance™. God knows you can’t get it up unless civilians are getting murdered.