Winn always made my skin crawl!

    • @ummthatguy
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      182 months ago

      I love Janeway to death, it’s just that she was put into the unenviable position of making tough choices for the needs of the many… or the brew.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      22 months ago

      No, her prime directive was keeping her crew stranded and actively finding any pretentious moral excuse to pretend to justify it

      If the show was realistic, she would have died very early on during a mutiny… and Chakotay wouldn’t be one of the most shocking racist characters I’ve seen in an 90’s/2000’s era TV show

      • AwesomeLowlander
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        22 months ago

        Sorry, can you elaborate on the first paragraph? It’s been many years since I watched voyager.

        • Queen HawlSera
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          22 months ago

          Basically, Janeway would often get an offer “Do this and we’ll send you and your crew back to where you come from.” or a warning “Don’t do this or we won’t be able to send you and your crew back where you came from!”

          And it always ended in Janeway going “I can’t do this, it goes against everything I stand for!” or “But I MUST do this, not doing it goes against everything I stand for.”

          Even if the thing she “MUST DO or her crew won’t go back home” is in direct contradiction with what she “MUST NOT DO or her crew can’t go back her.” last episode

          Basically Janeway kept flip-flopping on her morals to the point where it legitimately seemed like she was TRYING to leave her crew stranded in a territory where she was actively making enemies of pretty much every faction she came across.