“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”

  • @[email protected]
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    It’s funny because if Democrats just did what people wanted in the first place people would vote for them

      • @nomous
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        You know, the people who want the same thing I want.

      • ArxCyberwolf
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        The single-issue Gaza voters who ignore everything else at stake besides Gaza.

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          It’s crazy to me that democrats use extreme language when speaking of the risks of middle eastern conflic escalating into Europe, but then dismiss it as an unimportant issue as soon as it’s pointed out that they are actively contributing to that escalation.

          • @acosmichippo
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            or maybe you are hyperbolizing and the truth is in the middle somewhere.

            • archomrade [he/him]
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              ‘Hyperbolizing’ what, exactly? In the middle of what, exactly?

              It would be easier to tell if you’re suggesting a false compromise if you were at all specific about what you’re talking about instead of making vague centrist gestures.

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                I’m referring to the two extreme positions you wrote. Not sure how that’s so vague, but I’ll spell it out for you anyway. I’m suggesting you presented two hyperbolized straw men in your comment above. Very few democrats, if any, do either of these:

                use extreme language when speaking of the risks of middle eastern conflic escalating into Europe

                dismiss it as an unimportant issue as soon as it’s pointed out that they are actively contributing to that escalation

                the position “in the middle” that’s closer to reality is something like “It is a major conflict that has the potential to escalate, but it’s also not the only thing at stake in this election.” That isn’t a false compromise, that’s just how it is.

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                  -42 months ago

                  “It is a major conflict that has the potential to escalate, but it’s also not the only thing at stake in this election.”

                  Idk what to tell you, that’s a dismissal of the issue as unimportant, even if simply unimportant as compared to the other things you say are at stake.

                  • @acosmichippo
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                    i don’t know what to tell you, that’s just bullshit.

        • @SeattleRain
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          Yes, genocide is such a wedge issue. Can’t they compromise on killing all the Jews Palestinians?

          • ArxCyberwolf
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            Pfft. What a way to twist my words. The single-issue people who constantly talk about voting third party over Gaza are going to be responsible for a Trump administration that will accelerate the genocide in Gaza. If any of these useful idiots actually gave a fuck about Gaza you’d work with the only viable party that could get a ceasefire to happen.

            It’s also ignoring the severe harm a Trump administration will do to the American people. Sure, you voted third party so technically your hands are clean. But it’s also throwing women, people of colour, LGBTQ, and everyone else who isn’t a straight white male under the bus. It’s throwing everyone in Ukraine (who by the way, are ALSO being genocided. But fuck them, right?) under the bus by withdrawing support and there very likely won’t be another election in 4 years to get those progressive policies you want so bad from the Dems if Trump wins.

            There is far more at stake than just Gaza. Get your heads out of your asses. If your third party nonsense helps Trump win then you’re just as responsible for the deaths of countless Palestinians.

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              Sure, you voted third party so technically your hands are clean.

              If voting for Democrats makes you complicit, then the net is cast so broad that their hands are absolutely not clean either. If they are supporting the state in any way, such as by paying taxes, then they too are “complicit” in much the same way.

              It’s a vanity vote. That’s it. It allows them to pretend they are morally superior, without actually having to do anything.

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        Leftists, obviously. The people they pay lip service to and then fuck over. The whole reason people vote for the green party in the first place.