You know, the same thing happens to me every time the FBI takes my phones.

    • masterofn001
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      3 months ago

      Clone.

      Repeat.

      Also, cellebrite.

      Edit: if people think forensics uses the actual device that would severely hinder any investigation.

      That would risk tampering, or destroying evidence.

      Copies are made.

      Technology exists.

      • @TrickDacy
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        And the cloning can happen thousands of times in one second?

        • @stardom8048
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          According to reporting, they have actually done this before.

          Most of the discussion I’ve read about this is along the lines of: clone the drive on the phone and then brute force the clones (circumventing the lockout issue: if you get locked out just keep trying on a new clone).

          In a relatively famous case, the FBI cracked the password on the San Bernardino shooter’s phone, but did not explain how they did it: https://www.vox.com/2016/3/29/11325134/apple-iphone-fbi-san-bernardino-case-ends

          Here is a company selling a brute force module for iPhones, although they don’t explain how they get around the lockout issue: https://belkasoft.com/unlocking-ios-devices-with-brute-force

          Here is another article about a company that claims to be able to brute force iPhone passcodes: https://www.vice.com/en/article/how-to-brute-force-iphones-graykey/

          • @disguy_ovahea
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            The FBI didn’t crack it. It was done by Cellebrite. I worked for Apple during the San Bernardino case. The suspect had an iPhone 5c, a model that did not have a Secure Enclave, and was vulnerable to brute force hacking through the Lightning Port. The Secure Enclave was released with the iPhone 5s, along with Touch ID, preventing peripheral access through the Lightning Port after the iPhone has been restarted.