• FuglyDuck
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      405 hours ago

      I would suggest it’s the conservative ideologies that are toxic, education is the antidote.

        • FuglyDuck
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          135 minutes ago

          Well, toxins are inorganic so they’re not really killed by antidotes.

          Now if the analogy were infections an antibiotics….

    • nfh
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      74 hours ago

      Conservatism is about favoring tradition and supporting the status quo. Going this wild about a common grammatical construct because it reminds you of people you hate for existing isn’t conservative, it’s something far worse.

      • @grue
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        92 hours ago

        Conservatism is about favoring tradition and supporting the status quo.

        No, that’s a lie conservatives tell to make their ideology seem less abhorrent.

        What conservatism is actually about is perpetuating hierarchy.

      • JinFox
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        One could argue that so called “traditions” they are holding so much dearly in their heart never was fully a thing and is just the product of past idealizations and marketing propaganda. “The perfect suburban american trad family” from the 60s is a construct made by marketing people to sell fridges, diamond and beautiful car.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 hours ago

          Idealizing a fake era of greatness which came before the weak, but also very powerful bad people took it away.

          Now where have I heard that one before? 🤔

      • @[email protected]
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        243 hours ago

        Conservatism is about favoring tradition and supporting the status quo.

        That’s just what Conservatism claims to be about, but it has always been regressive

        • nfh
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          I think we agree that most self-identified conservatives aren’t actually very invested in the status quo or tradition, and are actually regressive reactionaries, but I think it’s a clearer point to say that most self-identified conservatives aren’t in fact conservative, than that conservatism isn’t actually what people (claim they) mean when they say conservative. At that point, conservatism loses its meaning.

          • @[email protected]
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            103 hours ago

            At that point, conservatism loses its meaning.

            Conservatism hasn’t lost its meaning, conservatism just never meant what conservatives claimed it meant; it’s always been a façade.

            Conservatism is about conserving (and reinforcing) power structures; all talk about ‘tradition’ and ‘stability’/‘status-quo’ is wool over your eyes.

      • @[email protected]
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        33 hours ago

        In liberal democracy, the status quo is liberalism. Conservatism was to conserve the monarchy and aristocracy.

        • The Snark Urge
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          03 hours ago

          There is a difference between historical conservatism and what it has become. Even setting that aside, there is much daylight between what a movement will profess and what it will ultimately produce.

          • @grue
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            32 hours ago

            No, there really isn’t. True conservatism is an unbroken line from royalists, to confederates, to nazis, to Trump.

            It’s the allegedly small government, pro-freedom “conservatives” – i.e. self-deluded liberals who mislabeled themselves – who were the aberration.