• @over_clox
    link
    229 hours ago

    From my understanding, the reason most states allow them is largely because they’re very useful tools in certain fields of construction, particularly for melting tar.

    If I’m mistaken, or if they also have other legitimate uses, feel free to correct me or add additional information…

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
      link
      English
      75 hours ago

      Traditional flamethrowers have fuel gelling additives that cause the burning fuel to stick to the victim, making them considerably more dangerous than a long flamed torch.

    • @OhmsLawn
      link
      199 hours ago

      I suppose the key is where the line is drawn between a flamethrower and a very large torch.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        4
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        Flamethrowers typically set fire to a stream of flammable liquid, like gasoline (as a trivial example). Torches use gas, or gas mixtures.

        The inherent range differences are a meter (maybe 2) for torches, and flamethrowers do 50-100 m (source: Wikipedia). Just in case that isn’t clear, those aren’t the same category of device.

      • @Sludgeyy
        link
        9
        edit-2
        9 hours ago

        A flamethrower is a ranged incendiary device.

        What do you consider a flamethrower?

        How far is ranged?

        Construction uses what I would call torches, not flamethrowers

        There is very few cases where you want to “throw” flames. It’s inefficient. Keeping the flame and the material close is preferred.

        Giant pile of tar you want to set on fire as fast as possible? I guess a flamethrower is effective. Burning brush, anything where you’re catching something on fire so it spreads.

        They use “flamethrowers” on bitumen roofs. But the idea behind the tool is to not throw the flames as far as possible.

        I’d define flamethrower as “An incendiary device that disperses uncontrollable flames at a distance”

        • @Jesus_666
          link
          English
          88 hours ago

          For me the required characteristics would be that it dispenses a burning liquid at a distance in a controlled, directed manner.

          • If it dispenses burning gas it’s not very useful as a weapon and is really just a big gas burner. Roofing torches, blowtorches, and weed burners fall into this category.
          • If it doesn’t cover a meaningful distance it’s also not very useful as a weapon and is essentially just a leaky container. Driptorches fall into this category.
          • If it dispenses the burning material in an uncontrolled or undirected manner it’s either an incendiary bomb/grenade of some sort or an accident. It might be a weapon but not one I’d call a flamethrower.
        • @Alexstarfire
          link
          15 hours ago

          Flamethrowers don’t use gas. It uses liquid or solid. That’s why real flamethrowers can be used at ranges of 50+ ft. Often times even higher than that.

    • snooggums
      link
      English
      109 hours ago

      They are also very useful for controlled burns.

      The most important thing is that nobody is using them maliciously so there is no incentive to ban them.

      • @hypnicjerk
        cake
        link
        139 hours ago

        and the reason that there are no bad guys with flamethrowers is that they’re terrified of good guys with flamethrowers