I think the episodic nature of pre-Disco Trek works in its favor. In episodic Trek, if the authors get a bug up their ass to write something stupid or tedious, you get one episode of stupid or tedious. In serialized Trek, if they get that same assbug, you’re stuck in the fucking mirror universe for most of a season.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that PIC and Disco have had mixed-to-negative fan reaction, while SNW and LD have been received overwhelmingly positively.
I don’t believe it honestly. Been burned on DSC and PIC already which were raging trashfires. Is the transformers guy and his bad robot nepo babies still involved?
Is the transformers guy and his bad robot nepo babies still involved?
Not sure who you’re referring to here. By bad robot I assume you mean JJ Abrams? He only directed the 2 movies a decade ago as far as I’m aware. I don’t know of any transformer guys in star trek.
No. Alex Kurtzman primarily, who is the showrunner for DSC and PIC, handed such a role for his previous successes like writing Transformers 2 - movie well known for it’s gripping story - and making smash hits like TASM2.
But not just him, also Akiva Goldsman, Michael Chabon and Kirsten Beyer. You know, the four horsefolks of the apocalypse that ran trek into the sorry state it’s in today.
JJ is actually a decent director (I’m a clovefield fan from back in the day). These people on the other hand are all talentless hacks.
Projection. Just because I’m not a moron consuming mindless corporate slop with more plot holes than plot and contrived drama doesn’t mean I’m some rightoid just because both upset you.
If anything you make them look cool, were I not pretty far-left I’d probably now think the anti-woke people must be onto something if they don’t consume actual garbage and upset those who do. After all, It’s a natural desire to not want to merely consume product and get excited for the next product but to engage with stories and think about them critically, an ability you evidently lack.
Besides, modern trek isn’t really woke at all actually. It doesn’t really explore any challenging themes or any real dilemmas, the non-binary thing in DSC was genuinely less thought provoking than the clunky TNG episode from 40 odd years ago.
If you want some actual woke AF sci-fi, go watch For All Mankind, made by people who know what they’re doing, like Ron D. Moore, you know, the guy with probably close to a hundred lead writer credits on some of the best TNG and DS9 episodes and showrunning BSG under his belt.
Hell the Expanse is more thought provoking and uplifting than PIC, who’s most thought provoking character is a guy who cuts people’s heads off with a sword.
This screenshot is from Strange New Worlds. It’s really good.
Pre-TOS era, modern storytelling and cinematography. Good times all around.
But very much a B5 type of storytelling, where the problem of the week takes front stage, and the overarching plot is in the background.
I think the episodic nature of pre-Disco Trek works in its favor. In episodic Trek, if the authors get a bug up their ass to write something stupid or tedious, you get one episode of stupid or tedious. In serialized Trek, if they get that same assbug, you’re stuck in the fucking mirror universe for most of a season.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that PIC and Disco have had mixed-to-negative fan reaction, while SNW and LD have been received overwhelmingly positively.
That sounds kinda promising actually.
I don’t believe it honestly. Been burned on DSC and PIC already which were raging trashfires. Is the transformers guy and his bad robot nepo babies still involved?
Not sure who you’re referring to here. By bad robot I assume you mean JJ Abrams? He only directed the 2 movies a decade ago as far as I’m aware. I don’t know of any transformer guys in star trek.
No. Alex Kurtzman primarily, who is the showrunner for DSC and PIC, handed such a role for his previous successes like writing Transformers 2 - movie well known for it’s gripping story - and making smash hits like TASM2.
But not just him, also Akiva Goldsman, Michael Chabon and Kirsten Beyer. You know, the four horsefolks of the apocalypse that ran trek into the sorry state it’s in today.
JJ is actually a decent director (I’m a clovefield fan from back in the day). These people on the other hand are all talentless hacks.
You are a close minded fool. I bet you also complain about how “woke” Star Trek became
Projection. Just because I’m not a moron consuming mindless corporate slop with more plot holes than plot and contrived drama doesn’t mean I’m some rightoid just because both upset you.
If anything you make them look cool, were I not pretty far-left I’d probably now think the anti-woke people must be onto something if they don’t consume actual garbage and upset those who do. After all, It’s a natural desire to not want to merely consume product and get excited for the next product but to engage with stories and think about them critically, an ability you evidently lack.
Besides, modern trek isn’t really woke at all actually. It doesn’t really explore any challenging themes or any real dilemmas, the non-binary thing in DSC was genuinely less thought provoking than the clunky TNG episode from 40 odd years ago.
If you want some actual woke AF sci-fi, go watch For All Mankind, made by people who know what they’re doing, like Ron D. Moore, you know, the guy with probably close to a hundred lead writer credits on some of the best TNG and DS9 episodes and showrunning BSG under his belt.
Hell the Expanse is more thought provoking and uplifting than PIC, who’s most thought provoking character is a guy who cuts people’s heads off with a sword.