• @givesomefucks
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    -13 months ago

    What?

    They’re both pro fracking, and Kamala could gain votes by being against it

    • HobbitFoot
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      23 months ago

      Who would be anti fracking but otherwise vote for Donald Trump?

      • @meeeeetch
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        13 months ago

        A sizeable chunk of the folks who would have voted for RFK Jr, I’d guess.

        • HobbitFoot
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          33 months ago

          So people not voting for Harris anyway, which is why I won’t what votes she would lose.

      • abff08f4813c
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        13 months ago

        No one in their right mind.

        But these folks might vote Stein, costing Harris the State in a FPTP system.

        Or they might not vote at all, hurting Harris if the election turns out to be particularly close.

      • @givesomefucks
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        -13 months ago

        1. Pennsylvania is a battleground state Kamala might not win.

        2. 58% of voters there want to ban fracking.

        3. Both candidates are pro-fracking.

        4. Kamala changing her stance to against fracking will help get votes, win Pennsylvania, and stop trump.

        I’m sorry if what I’m saying still isn’t clear, but I can think of no simpler way to put it, I wont see anymore of your replies so if you still need assistance ask someone else

        • HobbitFoot
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          33 months ago

          Kamala changing her stance to against fracking will help get votes

          And I’m asking how. What person voting for President is making being against fracking the reason for their vote? Who is the single issue voter against fracking?

          Yeah, 58% of Pennsylvania voters don’t like fracking, but who is going to change their vote because of this shift, either to Trump or to third party?

          • abff08f4813c
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            23 months ago

            And I’m asking how. What person voting for President is making being against fracking the reason for their vote? Who is the single issue voter against fracking?

            I’d not discount the single issue voter yet.

            Yeah, 58% of Pennsylvania voters don’t like fracking, but who is going to change their vote because of this shift, either to Trump or to third party?

            The former? No one. But to a third party like Stein, that’s a lot more plausible. We’re already seeing this elsewhere (e.g. with Muslim voters endorsing Stein due to Harris not being strong enough on protecting Gaza) so worrying about a single issue vote can make sense here.

            Ultimately though I agree with you - Harris is likely to gain more from the moderate Republican never trumper pro fracking votes than she’ll lose from the single issue anti-fracking votes.