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Abravnel’s pictures show two bearded men wearing sunglasses and three other men wearing face coverings on board the boat. One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company. Lindell, who is a well-known Trump supporter, recently hit back against claims that his product pricing was inadvertently linked to neo-Nazi propaganda.
Dementia donnie has said he doesn’t care about the Constitution and that he wants to be a dictator on day one. He’s made many, many statements that are clearly fascist.
If people still support him after that, what do you call those people?
From my conversations with Trump supporters, they typically acknowledge Trump is a bad choice and don’t like the way he acts, talks, etc. They typically view what Trump says as an exaggeration, saying things like “he won’t actually xyz”.
Universally, people I know that support Trump in real life, support him either because they are Christian, and feel that the Democratic party is against their core values. Or, they feel some kind of hatred against leftists, because of propoganda they have been fed.
That’s the way I see reality. There are extremists on both sides, but I refuse to stop believing that Trumpists aren’t voting with what they believe is best for America, even if I personally disagree with them.
I really dislike these discussions that paint the other side of a political battle as something insane like Nazi’s, that just isn’t real, and it makes me so sad to see people either believing it, or feeding the cycle by adding to the joke.
They are still supporting him. If they say “he won’t really do X”, they are just lying to others and to themselves - I’m sure that deep down, they know full well he means it and they are okay with it.
There are NOT extremists on both sides in the same degree and intensity that the right has extremists. Watch “Against All Enemies” and let me know what the leftist equivalent is. The right has people that want to plunge this country into a literal, shooting, civil war. The left has people that want universal healthcare, UBI, cops that respect everyone, clean air and clean water, retirement with dignity, jobs with dignity and so on. These are not the same thing.
I know these people closely. I don’t think they expect him to go full on dictator. Maybe thats true for some other Trumpists, majority not true for the ones I know.
Talking points you brought up seem to be a strawman. For Christians, a big reason they vote for Trump is because the Republican party has taken a hard stance on not allowing abortion. For many, many Christians, that is as serious a topic, as facism is on left-wing discussion forums.
And again, their voting ideology is not so clear cut. They don’t support Trump because they believe he is perfect in every category, rather, he checks the one box (or rather, his party) that is extremely controversial and important to them.
Also yeah, right-wing extremists are more common then left-wing. So there is a concern there. I stand by what I said though, that the majority of Trump voters do not support extremist action.