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    No, this is a situation where the dems need to get as many votes as possible, and you’re underestimating the voting power of old people.

    The dems are accepting the Cheney’s support specifically to wake up some moderate, old conservatives who would otherwise vote reflexively for trump simply because of the R after his name.

    This isn’t an ideological move, but a purely political one. Politics is not always tasteful. Ideological purity is useless against actual, real-life fascism, and it’s a strategic move. Reality isn’t always rainbows and unicorns.

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      It isn’t ideological purity. The only people who give up ground is Dems that is why the GOP can dog walk them while going on about space lazers and weather control. There should be some limits when it comes to people like Dick Cheney getting a pass. I’ve done the whole vote for the lesser evil. I’m good. I’ll do what I can locally and vote down ballot for in local elections.

      When Trump can come out call Harris for adopting his policies and she has nothing to say back. I’m good. I don’t support right-wingers even with (D) next to their name.

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          A person who isn’t backing genocide and with an agenda for working class and poor people. Pretty lowbar.

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            genocide jill is perfectly fine with genocides except for the one that’s hot in the news right now.

            by the way, those people are who are being genocided in the genocide hot in the news right now? they support kamala harris.

            you don’t care about genocide. especially that one. because if you did you would be voting for her. it’s either you hate israel or you just refuse to vote for a black woman or you want to vote for trump or some combination of the 3.

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              It could be Harris if she decides to change course She wants to earn support and the ball is in her court. She can do things for the mythical centrist Dick Cheney voter. Then asking for her to follow international law and stop being active in genocide isn’t much.

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                the mythical centrist Dick Cheney voter.

                You mean the Reagan/Bush era republicans who are now the most reliable voting block, and who feel like the current Republican party has gone too far, but have been dutifully ticking that R every election since they were able to vote? The ones on a steady diet of Fox News who think trump can’t really be that bad, but if the Cheney’s of all people, those dyed in the wool conservatives, are supporting Harris, maybe they should at least look a bit closer at it – those people who don’t exist?

                I assure you, those people exist. Especially in swing states. They exist so much, professional pollsters warn they might be over represented.

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        This is not giving up ground. The only people looking at this and thinking it means Harris somehow supports the Cheneys rather than the other way round are ideological purists. Nobody sane is giving the Cheneys a pass. They’re slime and we all know it. The only thing this tells us is that he’s* so unabashedly heinous that even old school Republicans can’t stomach him. It’s not a difficult concept.

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