• @someguy3
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    1416 hours ago

    But why micro USB? That was later wasn’t it?

      • @[email protected]
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        74 hours ago

        I have two relatively new microphones that have mini USB, and honestly, I think it’s against the Geneva convention.

        • JustEnoughDucks
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          MiniUSB is much more robust than microUSB. Those connectors would fail pretty quick while I have never even heard of miniUSB breaking. Fuck microUSB.

          • @[email protected]
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            257 minutes ago

            Meanwhile, my Blue Yeti has a fucked mini USB socket, though in fairness that’s because Blue, in their infinite wisdom, positioned it right next to the mounting insert. It’s remarkably easy to knock the cable against the mount when moving it about.

      • @someguy3
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        513 hours ago

        So any idea why they went with the horrible micro USB instead of a reversible C style?

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          Because its not just the connector, its the electronics. Usb c requires a chip to negotiate who is the host and whos the device. Usb-C thats completely ambiguous. But micro-B is always assumed is the device. But with power delivery becoming mainstream after micro B was drafted, the electronics can be all rolled into a singlw chip and finnally, reversible usb was cheap. To put in every device imaginable.

          • @someguy3
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            310 hours ago

            Hmm so the current C can be host or device, but really I’m not focused on that aspect. I’m focused on the reversible flip it over kind of thing - like USB A you flip over because you never get it right. You could have made a USB C style that always assumed is device.

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              I mean they could. But it would only solve one side. I dont think the original drafters envision using usb as a charging platform but a data transfer between thousands of different devices and host devices. I dont think they intended for most portable devices to have one side basically permanently fixed.

              For exampe for each mini and micro type B connected theres a mini and micro type A connector. But ive never seen one in the wild, but its suggestion the intention for the usb drafters.

              • @someguy3
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                16 hours ago

                I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing and I don’t know where the confusion is.

                Like when MicroUSB came out, I think charging was pretty standard. The cable can be a normal USB A to USB something that is reversible like USB C style, instead of the the USB micro.

                • @[email protected]
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                  35 hours ago

                  Like when MicroUSB came out, I think charging was pretty standard.

                  not really, in 2007, USB wasn’t even the main way to charge phones. most manufactures were using their proprietary connectors. I recall Nokia was using their barrel plug well until they sold to MS.

        • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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          912 hours ago

          Because it was available for longer?
          It takes a while to implement something. And it also took a while to basically standardize micro USB or mini USB as well. Remember when basically every phone manufacturer had their own connector? USB-C would for a while just break the norm again.

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            Really? I’m asking why they didn’t design and use a reversible C style in 2007 instead of the micro USB. Afaik a reversible style is not dependent on tech development from 2007-2014,

            • @kn33
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              28 hours ago

              Price, I imagine. Gotta make it cheap enough to get buy in. They were still competing with FireWire at that point.