• @Etterra
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    533 months ago

    Nothing helps traffic like more roads. It’s not like mass transit could fix it.

    • @[email protected]
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      303 months ago

      Still need infrastructure for mass transit.

      Busses still need roads and rails need maintenance.

      • warm
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        293 months ago

        Buses dont need multi-lane highways and massive interchanges, neither do trains…

        • @[email protected]
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          173 months ago

          I’m not for the highways, but trains need train stations and large rail yards and big storage and maintenance areas, and whole new set of machinery and infrastructure to maintain.

          Operators for trains and tracks and other systems.

          Its not just “lay some track and buy a train”, and you are not saying that either.

          Right decision imo to aim for that in the long run tho!

          • warm
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            103 months ago

            Yeah, I mean that’s where the money should be spent, not on highway changes.

        • @AngryCommieKender
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          53 months ago

          Trains still need some pretty massive interchanges, just look at any megabase in Factorio. There are literally books of blueprints to deal with any interchange you could possibly need for your trains.

          • warm
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            83 months ago

            Rail takes up some space, but only at terminating stations. The tracks themselves for 99% of the journey are much more space efficient than roads. We can’t compare factorio to real life aha, we are transporting people instead of cargo and over much larger distances.

            Besides, USA has a lot of space, that wasn’t really the issue, it was the spending of money on the wrong infrastructure.

            • @idiomaddict
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              13 months ago

              We’re very much also transporting cargo, but I don’t know anything about factorio or trains, so I don’t know if that’s a large distinction

              • @AngryCommieKender
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                In Factorio the only passenger on the trains is the player character known as “the engineer,” and if your play style is anything like mine, you can run faster than your trains, so they just ship cargo.

                I was being a bit facetious by bringing up Factorio, it’s just my go to use case for train path designing, since Railroad Tycoon basically doesn’t exist any more.

                Also their point on distances stands since the largest Factorio maps would scale to be several hundred to a thousand miles across.

      • @AngryCommieKender
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        Trains still need some pretty massive interchanges, just look at any megabase in Factorio. There are literally books of blueprints to deal with any interchange you could possibly need for your trains.

        Replied to the wrong comment.

    • @Aeao
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      103 months ago

      Infrastructure doesn’t necessarily mean roads. Although I haven’t heard of anyone using this money to make public transportation better I have heard stories of cities using this money to improve pedestrian and bike infrastructure.