• @NeoNachtwaechter
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    403 months ago

    It is not good for the kernel and it’s team to suddenly have to kowtow to Usamerican politics.

    • @mkwt
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      833 months ago

      The reality is that the Linux Foundation is in the United States, and Linus is a naturalized US citizen who lives in Oregon (at least on Wikipedia). So they both will have to pay attention to avoid transacting business with individuals and companies on the SDN list. That is the law in the United States.

      • Dessalines
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        303 months ago

        What an extremely dangerous place to domicile such an important project.

      • @j4k3
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        163 months ago

        Kreg moved to Europe, last I heard. So at least the heir apparent is in a region with better potential international diplomacy and neutrality.

      • Flyswat
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        103 months ago

        Would a fork be the solution to avoid having a system that is crucial for people worldwide cease to be a weapon at the hands of merrican politicians?

        • @[email protected]
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          343 months ago

          It’ll be at the hands of whatever jurisdiction the forker is in. It’s not like you can escape governments.

        • @[email protected]
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          133 months ago

          I’m afraid that if the sanctions will continue to be a go-to method of dealing with geopolitical rivals, we may end up with a few divergent forks. One for US and “the west” block, one for Chinese comrades with their junior Russian partners, and maybe one for Indian code gurus who don’t like both sides and have capable engineering resources themselves.

            • @[email protected]
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              13 months ago

              Thank you for that! I was perplexed since I’ve been in the Linux space for 25 years and I was thinking that I would have to switch to bsd.

              • @Draghetta
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                73 months ago

                If you think BSDs are devoid of drama you’re in for a cold shower…

                Switch to OpenBSD if you have to, at least the drama there is super funny

              • Dave.
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                33 months ago

                I was thinking that I would have to switch to bsd.

                Finally the year of Hurd on the desktop?

          • @[email protected]
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            13 months ago

            I’m afraid that if the sanctions will continue to be a go-to method of dealing with geopolitical rivals, we may end up with a few divergent forks. One for US and “the west” block, one for […]

            Considering that that this idea of making a Linux for the US vs a Linux for “the rest of the world” was what made me ditch Fedora for Debian, it’d be a shame to have it happen to Linux as well. Like, sure, an alternative will emerge, but where does one go while that progresses to be daily-driver? Haiku?

        • @[email protected]
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          93 months ago

          This kind of thing is the inevitable outcome of US policy to “decouple”, which they are pushing. Take something they nominally control, kick out every designated enemy / enemy collaborator, and then watch as an alternative pops up among the " enemy" and ban its purchase or use.

        • @mkwt
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          43 months ago

          Would a fork be technically viable if Americans and American businesses can’t participate (because the fork works with SDN entities)? Maybe.

        • @[email protected]
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          13 months ago

          Sure for not but it we’ll go nowhere. Most of the kernel developers are paid developers it’s not somebody working on it in there free time.

      • @NeoNachtwaechter
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        43 months ago

        Then they should try to free themselves from it.

        And governments should wise up and exempt them from any kind of petty stuff.

        • @Telodzrum
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          53 months ago

          In the balance between geopolitical conflicts and Linux, the latter is the petty stuff.

          • @NeoNachtwaechter
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            13 months ago

            This is not something that needs balance.

            And they have quite different kinds of petty:

            When Linus gets petty, then there’s a proper rant, somebody gets red in the face (but you don’t get to see the pics), and some news interns can write headlines.

            When politicians get petty, then people in foreign countries are killed.