Israel could kill everyone left in Northern Gaza if its assault on the enclave continues, a United Nations relief official warned on Saturday

“Hospitals have been hit, and health workers have been detained. Shelters have been emptied and burned down. First responders have been prevented from saving people from under the rubble. Families have been separated, and men and boys are being taken away by the truckload,”

Msuya estimated that Israel’s actions in the north had killed hundreds and displaced tens of thousands. According to Al Jazeera, an Israeli siege on the north that began earlier in October has killed around 640.

“The Biden-Harris administration must stop the flow of U.S. weapons to Israel which constitutes a necessary step to halting Israel’s ongoing war crimes,” IMEU wrote on social media Saturday. “It’s time for an arms embargo now.”

  • @CritFail
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    If Israel actually completes its mission and kills every man, woman, and child in Palestine, would that make the western powers any more inclined to call it genocide?

    • @cley_faye
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      They would start to “seriously consider the possibility that perhaps something was not right”

      • @Dasus
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        “We will have to think about scheduling a call to plan a meeting to start having talks about perhaps organising a committee which would make a recommendation as to how we should go about getting ready to write a sternly worded press release (in which we won’t criticise Israel too much).”

        The four stage strategy

    • @Maggoty
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      It took us a 100 years to officially recognize the Armenian Genocide.

      • @Dasus
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        You can’t be that naive, honestly

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        That defence holds about such water as a colander. There is so much evidence to the contrary that it boggles the mind. They have bombed hospitals, schools, bomb shelters, kettled the entire population into a tiny parcel of land in the southernmost tip of the country while they finish levelling the rest of Palestine, and stopped all aid, journalists, water, and food entering the country. And then to add insult to injury they bomb the safe zones.

        A country’s right to defend itself does not extend to this. This isn’t defence.

        Do they expect the civilians with blown off limbs in bombed-out hospitals to walk to these not-so-safe zones? How do they expect the entire population to survive in these cramped conditions with no access to critical food, water, and medicine heading into winter? (Hint: they don’t.)

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          bomb shelters

          Can you provide a source for this?

          In all the other cases of schools, hospitals, safe zones: these were used by combatants for military purposes. These are warcrimes in itself and make attacking these now military objectives legal under international humanitarian law.

          That said. There are also war crimes committed by Israeli soldiers and careless destruction.

          Hint: they don’t.

          For many months we have heard claims of imminent death starvation of millions and that evacuation from Rafah would be impossible. These claims didn’t materialize.

          Yes, the humanitarian situation for Gazans is dire. Why are the refugees not allowed to flee the war zone like in every other war?

          Hamas and its ilk could stop this war at any time by releasing the hostages. As long as the hostages remain in captivity and rockets are fired at Israel, they have a good claim to continue the war. Hamas is ideologically convinced any number of dead Palestinians is acceptable, if Israel is damaged somewhat at least.

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            bomb shelters

            can you provide a source for this

            So…even if they didn’t, you’d be fine with the hospitals, schools, safe zones, etc? Just because of one fuckin flimsy ass excuse from Israel? And have you seen proof of every school, hospital, et al that’s been bombed being used by Hamas? Are you not asking for proof of that? But when the people are being fuckin slaughtered, you need proof that EVERY SINGLE FUCKIN safe haven had been leveled before you fuckin stand up for the people facing a goddamn genocide? Wheat the fuck is wrong with you

            But fine.

            https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-palestinian-civilians-safety-airstrikes-f38f27da1dd995acc14e6db1524761e7

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              I have heard from attacks on schools, hospitals, and safe zones. These were all used by combatants and thus legal military objectives under international humanitarian law.

              I have never even heard of bomb shelters existing for civilians in Gaza.

              • @[email protected]
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                …do you even hear yourself?

                These people don’t have bomb shelters. WHERE THEY WERE TOLD BY ISRAEL TO SHELTER, THEY WERE FUCKING SLAUGHTERED. THAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM YOU GODDAMN MONSTER

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                  You only seem to have an emotional and not a factual understanding of the situation.

                  If combatants use a safe zone for military purposes, the military objectives can be attacked legally. Safe zones are for civilians, not for combatants. Combatants abusing safe zones for military purposes like launching and storing missiles are the ones violating the safe zone first and thus legitimizing attacks.

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                    Excuse me for getting emotional over a fucking genocide. I find it strange that you’re not emotional over a clear as day genocide happening with all the proof in the world in front of our very eyes. And how you’re defending genocide as just a necessary step because of some flimsy ass excuse. I’m a human, so that will tend to happen. What makes you defend genocide, if you don’t mind my asking.

                    I wonder if people were dismissed during the holocaust for getting emotional about the slaughter of innocent people.

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            Can you provide a source for this?

            This attack was four days ago

            For many months we have heard claims of imminent death starvation of millions and that evacuation from Rafah would be impossible. These claims didn’t materialize.

            I mean, evacuation is impossible at this point isnt it? Where would they go? Back to the levelled north? Force their way into Egypt? The fact that they aren’t all dead yet doesn’t disprove that Israel’s intent is to cause it, they just haven’t finished yet.

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              That’s not a bomb shelter.

              Force their way into Egypt

              Why doesn’t Egypt open the border? Why is there no evacuation of refugees by sea?

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                Oh sorry, I misread the article. It turns out Israel bombed a school that was situated in a refugee camp. It was being used as a shelter, that’s much better.

                But I looked into it and apparently Gaza doesn’t have bomb shelters, so it would be hard for Israel to bomb them, I suppose. Too expensive to build while embargoed and not prioritised by their government, I will strike that from my comment.

                Why doesn’t Egypt open the border?

                There are many reasons why they are reluctant. Do you think Egypt has the facilities to house and feed 2.2 million refugees? Does any country?

                Why should Palestinians be forced to leave when Israel insist they will not allow them to return to their homeland?

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                  Hamas managed to build hundreds of kilometers of underground tunnels and bunkers to protect combatants and military infrastructure. Civilians just aren’t allowed in there. That’s where the priorities of Gaza‘s government lie. They don’t give a shit if civilians die, if they can continue the futile attempt to destroy Israel by force of arms. Militant resistance takes precedence over building decent lives. That’s the whole reason Gaza is so fucked.

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                    Yeah, Hamas are bastards. They have not allowed elections and ruled dictatorially for a generation, and do not have a right to think they represent the people of Gaza. The innocent civillian Gazan population don’t deserve to suffer as a result. Hamas have done horrible things, not building necessary bomb shelters from an oppressive Israel is one of them. The lack of bomb shelters in Gaza does not mean you or anyone should condone bombing of a civilian population. They had the nerve to talk to NYT to say they were getting PTSD from running over too many unarmed Gazan civilians with a bulldozer. Actions like this make Netanyahu, and the complicit IDF and encourageable Israeli voting population bastards.

                    That this needs to be spelled out is depressing.

    • @wurzelgummidge
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      Of course not, because they are complicit

    • @Olgratin_Magmatoe
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      Probably not for a few decades at least. It’s only when today’s college aged people take power that it’ll get labeled as such. And even then, it’s not a guarantee.

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          Just think of the profit potential!

          • @[email protected]
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            Heh. The fact we live in a world where terrible tragedies become profitable media in a few generations is a mixed bag. It’s good that people know about it, but it’s sad that it is something to profit from.

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        Victors may get to write history, but younger generations get to have the last word on it.