I received my ballot a week ago and I couldn’t bring myself to fill it out yet. I’m scared of another Trump presidency if that is what happens, but I can’t keep supporting Democrats that have become what they claim to hate. I know if I vote for her that I’m sending a message that they can keep using the same playbook to move closer to fascism and corporatocracy.

They use their influence & power to eliminate opposition, and their donor money to astroturf social media. They censor other voices online, and spread lies about other people (Jill Stein) without evidence. They gaslight and claim you’re fascist for telling the truth and blame others for their mistakes. They’ll use your money to pay for genocide while turning a blind eye to help themselves, but make a thousand excused why they can’t help you.

They don’t deserve to win. Trump will be bad and I’m scared about what will happen if he wins, but you and I are not to blame. All they had to do was be truthful, transparent, empathetic and genuine—but their lust for power got in the way.

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    Don’t gaslight me. I was paying very close attention. She clearly avoided calling Putin a war criminal. And she was given many opportunities:


    Mehdi Hasan: So you called Netanyahu one, which I think he is.

    Jill Stein: Oh, absolutely.

    Mehdi Hasan: Is Putin a war criminal?

    Jill Stein: So what we said about Putin was that his invasion of Ukraine is a criminal and murderous war.

    Mehdi Hasan: And he’s a war criminal who should be on trial?

    Jill Stein: Well, by implication.

    Mehdi Hasan: You’re struggling here to say something very simple. This is why people have their doubts about you with Russia. Why is Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal but not Vladimir Putin?

    Jill Stein: Well, as John F. Kennedy said, “We must not negotiate out of fear and we must not fear to negotiate.” So if you want to be an effective world leader, you don’t start by name calling and hurling out that.

    Mehdi Hasan: So how will President Stein negotiate with Israel then, if you’ve called Netanyahu a war criminal?

    Jill Stein: Well, because he very clearly is a war criminal.

    Mehdi Hasan: Oh, so Putin clearly isn’t a war criminal?

    Jill Stein: Well, we don’t have a decision, put it this way, by the International Criminal Court.

    Mehdi Hasan: Yes, we do. Yes, actually, actually, you’re wrong. There’s an arrest warrant for Putin and there isn’t an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, so why is Putin not a war criminal, but Netanyahu is?

    Jill Stein: Yeah. Well, let me say this. We are sponsoring that war. We are sponsoring Netanyahu. He is our dog in this fight. That is why we have a responsibility to pull him back.

    Mehdi Hasan: No disagreement from me at all. It still doesn’t answer my question. Whether we sponsor them or not is irrelevant.

    Jill Stein: With Russia it’s far more complicated.

    Mehdi Hasan: Either you’re a war criminal or you’re not. Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?

    Jill Stein: In so many words, yes he is.

    Mehdi Hasan: I don’t know “what so many words” - Butch, is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?

    Jill Stein: Let me say that whatever you think he is -

    Mehdi Hasan: It’s not about what I think. I’m asking you. You’re running for President.

    Jill Stein: If you want to pull him back, if you are a world leader, you don’t begin your conversation by calling someone a war criminal unless you have a…

    Mehdi Hasan: So why have you called Biden and Netanyahu war criminals?

    Jill Stein: Because we have a clear strategy and we have very strong support across the world.

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      She calls him a war criminal at least there times there and you’re so blind you don’t even recognize it. Now go ask Kamala about her master Netanyahu. Has she called Netanyahu a war criminal? Oh she must be an Israeli agent according to your logic.

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        I’m afraid you’re the one who refuses to see.

        Jill Stein only used the words “war criminal” twice in that segment, and in both cases she wasn’t referring to Putin.

        In fact, she spent less time talking about his war crimes than on explaining why one shouldn’t call Putin a war criminal.

        • John RichardOPM
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          She absolutely referred to Putin as a war criminal 3 times but didn’t repeat Mehdi’s exact words like a parrot 🦜 Come back when Kamala calls Netanyahu a war criminal and I’ll demand Stein use stronger language for you. At this point you have no standing.

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            She didn’t repeat what Mehdi said because she didn’t want to be quoted saying Putin is a war criminal.

            But instead she said this:

            So if you want to be an effective world leader, you don’t start by name calling and hurling out that.

            “Hurl out that?” What exactly do you not want to hurl out, Jill?

            Come back when Kamala calls Netanyahu a war criminal

            Ok, so Jill is no better than Kamala when it comes to being “anti-genocide”. Glad that’s cleared up.

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              Mehdi Hasan: Is Putin a war criminal?

              Jill Stein: So what we said about Putin was that his invasion of Ukraine is a criminal and murderous war.

              Mehdi Hasan: And he’s a war criminal who should be on trial?

              Jill Stein: Well, by implication.

              Mehdi Hasan: Either you’re a war criminal or you’re not. Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?

              Jill Stein: In so many words, yes he is.

              Now do Kamala… Is Netanyahu a war criminal?

              Her expected response will be… “As you know the Palestinians, er I mean Hamas, attacked Israel on Oct. 7 and they are just defending themselves. We will always support Israel!”

              Yeah nice try to both sides this. Your argument that Kamala is bad, but Trump is worse, isn’t compelling. Maybe find a candidate that isn’t bribed and corrupt. No evidence that Jill Stein is either of those things, and she absolutely stated that Putin instigated a “criminal and murderous war”, should be on trial for doing so and that “in so many words, yes he is” a war criminal.

              She even calls him a war criminal right on her website:

              https://www.jillstein2024.com/resign

              So stop lying and pretending Kamala doesn’t support genocide and changing the narrative.

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                    I’m sorry, but that makes me even more suspicious of Stein’s motives.

                    She finally gathers the courage to criticize Putin, and SHE IGNORES HIS INVASION OF UKRAINE! Does she even understand why the world condemns Putin? Does she know why he was indicted by the ICC?

                    Open a newspaper, Jill. It’s not because of FREAKING SYRIA!

                    Her platform regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine is indistinguishable from that of Trump: “stop arming Ukraine”. So Russia can finish its conquest without US interference. Guess what, that’s also the same as Putin’s advice to the US.

                    If I wanted the US to take Putin’s advice there would be no need to vote for Stein, I would just vote for Trump.