• @Lauchs
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    -75 hours ago

    I love there were 2 sentences respond ling to the point and then a diatribe about the other side is evil.

    I’m not arguing the merits of maga. What I’m saying is pretty simple, if you were on the fence or say, one of the (I think it’s quarter-ish?) of Latinos supporting trump who was maybe repelled by that comedian, Biden just went and called you the same damn thing. And he’s the president, not a warm up act amidst a dozen or whatever speakers.

    • Nougat
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      44 hours ago

      What I’m saying is pretty simple, if you were on the fence or say, one of the (I think it’s quarter-ish?) of Latinos supporting trump who was maybe repelled by that comedian, Biden just went and called you the same damn thing.

      Being Latino is not a choice. Supporting Trump is. Criticize people for their shitty choices all day long.

      • @Lauchs
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        13 hours ago

        I think you’re maybe misreading the point? Calling trump supporters garbage alienates those people who are in the middle (who clearly exist as evidenced by the polling swings over the last few months.)

        I’d rather we do whatever to win every possible vote instead of pointlessly/counter-productively namecalling from the moral highground but maybe that’s just me.

        • Nougat
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          22 hours ago

          That’s totally fair.

          I was kind of pointing more toward the “Biden did the same thing,” when he didn’t, because of the whole “not a choice vs choice” thing. And sometimes (often, if I’m being honest) I find myself getting tired of shitty people being able to do and say shitty things and somehow it’s rude to call it out.

          • @Lauchs
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            02 hours ago

            Totally reasonable.

            And sometimes (often, if I’m being honest) I find myself getting tired of shitty people being able to do and say shitty things and somehow it’s rude to call it out.

            Fully agree. It’s goddamn exhausting trying to be the good guys. Feels.like the other side gets to cheat, like the villains throwing civilians in harms way so the heroes have to save them etc.

            But the older I get and the more concerned about the world we’re leaving for my friends’ kids, the more I care about winning elections instead of feeling smugly superior. (I said, while being smugly superior at people on my side whom I feel are being childish and/or counter-productive.)

    • @[email protected]
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      04 hours ago

      They had one pithy sentence, and even you said I responded with double that! What kind of standard is that!? The rest of your comment is just nonsense and not worth anyone’s time.

      I’m guessing people don’t often choose to converse with you…

      • @Lauchs
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        12 hours ago

        Are you maybe responding to a different comment? Or who is the they with the pithy sentence?