• MaggiWuerze
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    516 hours ago

    In contrast to stuff like AI training or crypto, chips at least fulfill an actually useful function, so I don’t see the issue with their manufacturing consuming a lot of energy. Or should we compare the same for cars or medicine?

    • @CosmoNova
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      226 hours ago

      Right? I was just thinking that entire countries run on chips so it sort of sounds about right at least.

    • @[email protected]
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      -166 hours ago

      What exactly do you think these chips are used for?

      Because it’s often enough AI, crypto and bullshit IoT.

      • @[email protected]
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        Phones, laptops, PC components, data centers, cars, planes, trains, satelites, medical laborarory equipments, factory controllers, and many more!

      • @Bassman1805
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        185 hours ago

        The vast, vast majority of chips produced are “old generation” chips used for relatively mundane purposes. The high-tech stuff you see in the news is a minority (though it’s pricey enough that it doesn’t look that way in company earnings reports).

        Think power supplies, middle-of-the-road CPUs, ASICs for common I/O like USB and ethernet, timing devices, and wireless communication modules.

        • @[email protected]
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          -135 hours ago

          And that’s mostly the “bullshit IoT” category. It’s not like the demand for phones and laptops exploded in the last years, it’s IoT, AI and other useless crap - regardless of the process node.

          • @Bassman1805
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            125 hours ago

            Even a non-IoT electronic device still runs on many different chips.

      • @[email protected]
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        185 hours ago

        Cars, manufacturing, microwaves, washer\dryer, dishwasher, cellphones/tablets, anything wireless. There are more non crypto/AI products than not.

      • FaceDeer
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        15 hours ago

        There are people who want AI, crypto, and IoT things. If there weren’t then there’d be no money to be made in selling it.