That’s the problem–it wouldn’t matter. Trump isn’t the problem, the problem is a huge percentage of the country who wants to elect him. If it’s not him, it’ll be someone just as bad. Hell, I wouldn’t put it past people to vote Putin himself in.
That’s one of the problems, for sure. First-past-the-post is a terrible voting system, and the electoral college is a mess. Unfortunately, I can’t blame those problems for the outcome of this election. Trump won decidedly–the larger percentage of American people want him, as unfortunate as that is.
Even if someone wins an election by a lot, the nature of voter turnout in the US means they at best represent like a third of the people. The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality, just in a political system that will allow them into power before even a social democrat.
If you completely ignore how the electoral system works, sure. Back in reality, we have elections which, largely due to voter disenfranchisement efforts, only at best only account for ~60% of the country, only about half of which go to the fascists. So less than a 1/3rd of the country, and even that comes with the caveat that their other option sucks too.
They only get power because the system is set up to favor them and the state needs to use violence to enforce the will of that minority on everyone else. We have the numbers to change things for the better, we just lack the organization to make that happen because of a century of efforts to violently repress those organizations and socially isolate people.
So you can keep being a misanthrope by pretending most of the people aren’t worth saving or you can recognize your fellow humans and work with them to do something about it.
This argument was persuasive when Trump lost the popular vote and still became president due to the election system being ridiculous, but not now that’s he’s got far more support than Harris. It’s time you faced that most of the USA is actually fine with Trump’s fascism.
By “popular vote,” you mean the % of people who voted. I’m talking about the country overall. Which includes people who didn’t get off work, have a handful of understaffed polling places, no good public transportation to get them to polling places, imprisoned people, people screwed my voter registration laws, etc. and that’s not even counting people too young to vote.
Your view only makes sense if you ignore literally everything about the broken US electoral system and all the other systems that touch it.
That’s the problem–it wouldn’t matter. Trump isn’t the problem, the problem is a huge percentage of the country who wants to elect him. If it’s not him, it’ll be someone just as bad. Hell, I wouldn’t put it past people to vote Putin himself in.
The problem is there are only two candidates to choose from.
That’s one of the problems, for sure. First-past-the-post is a terrible voting system, and the electoral college is a mess. Unfortunately, I can’t blame those problems for the outcome of this election. Trump won decidedly–the larger percentage of American people want him, as unfortunate as that is.
Even if someone wins an election by a lot, the nature of voter turnout in the US means they at best represent like a third of the people. The fascists don’t outnumber us in reality, just in a political system that will allow them into power before even a social democrat.
Doesn’t look like that from where I’m standing.
If you completely ignore how the electoral system works, sure. Back in reality, we have elections which, largely due to voter disenfranchisement efforts, only at best only account for ~60% of the country, only about half of which go to the fascists. So less than a 1/3rd of the country, and even that comes with the caveat that their other option sucks too.
They only get power because the system is set up to favor them and the state needs to use violence to enforce the will of that minority on everyone else. We have the numbers to change things for the better, we just lack the organization to make that happen because of a century of efforts to violently repress those organizations and socially isolate people.
So you can keep being a misanthrope by pretending most of the people aren’t worth saving or you can recognize your fellow humans and work with them to do something about it.
This argument was persuasive when Trump lost the popular vote and still became president due to the election system being ridiculous, but not now that’s he’s got far more support than Harris. It’s time you faced that most of the USA is actually fine with Trump’s fascism.
By “popular vote,” you mean the % of people who voted. I’m talking about the country overall. Which includes people who didn’t get off work, have a handful of understaffed polling places, no good public transportation to get them to polling places, imprisoned people, people screwed my voter registration laws, etc. and that’s not even counting people too young to vote.
Your view only makes sense if you ignore literally everything about the broken US electoral system and all the other systems that touch it.
All these people made to to vote four years ago. Don’t tell me situation got so much worse under Biden. You’re just looking for excuses.