• @blazera
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    452 hours ago

    It’s 80 degrees in November. America has reelected a climate change denier. SUV sales continue to rise.

  • @[email protected]
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    The entire rest of the world needs to be on watch, trump is a potential threat to other countries

    FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN AMERICA GET THE FUCK OUT NOW

    • @[email protected]
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      48 minutes ago

      What is so fucked that the US isn’t an anomaly. Authoritarianism has been on the rise since the 90s and we don’t really have any more true democracies. The crazy right-wing jackasses that people back in 2000 and 2005 thought were just kooks and nutjobs are now 100% mainstream and they’re taking over their respective countries… We are not in a good place.

    • @[email protected]
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      392 hours ago

      You realize that unless you have a second citizenship it’s not easy to just up and leave for another country?

      • @RawrGuthlaf
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        252 hours ago

        Even that isn’t enough unless you have a lot of money laying around and some kind of support network in whatever country you plan to escape to.

      • Edgarallenpwn [they/them]
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        Most people don’t. I really didn’t get the whole scope/big picture until my wife (who immigrated as a child and now works with immigrant families) explained the whole process and gave examples of things she’s seen at work and with people in the community. Last night we got dinner with my mom and she asked “OK where are we moving to?” to only get a lengthy conversation of how it’s works and how hard it is. It’s not as easy as buying a plane ticket, selling all your stuff or shipping things to where you are going and then picking up life as normal. I hope most people here realize that, but I felt like it needed to be said.

        • @[email protected]
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          Immigration is never easy… Right? I’d like to hear more stories from those who ensured the process.

      • DevopsPalmer
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        51 hour ago

        I’ve looked, it’s also incredibly expensive, outside of many people’s means, mine included

    • @dance_ninja
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      Lol and go where? From what I can tell, Canada has a housing crisis and is tilting right. Western Europe is already getting sick of immigrants and dealing with the far right.

      • @IzzyScissor
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        Exactly. They’re DEALING WITH the far right. They haven’t just handed they keys to the country over.

        There’s still a chance for them.

      • @[email protected]
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        My wife and I have considered shoring up in Baja. We have quite a few friends in a well insulated community down there, and it’s a 12 hour drive from where we’re at, assuming they don’t lock the border from the inside (which they probably will at some point).

    • @TrueStoryBob
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      I’m not leaving. All my friends are here. We don’t run from danger.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 hours ago

      Fuck that, I love this country and I’m not ceding it to a bunch of stupid bigots. They’re the ones that should be leaving.

      • @Warl0k3
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        It blows my mind you can still love this country after last night. Dude, we just ceded everything to the bigots. They’ve overwhelmingly achieved all their goals.

      • @formergijoe
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        72 hours ago

        Yeah now that Russia has bought and paid for the US they can focus elsewhere.

    • @LaunchesKayaks
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      I’d love to leave, but it isn’t feasible for me. I’m absolutely terrified and have no way out.

  • @alekwithak
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    He looks like a cartoon demon. An exaggerated 90s gross-up cartoon demon. Wtf do people see in him* except for their ugly-ass selves?

    • @PriorityMotif
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      He pisses people off, which is funny or something. Plus they are afraid of immigrants and “the gay” though there have been times when those people have embraced good will and togetherness, usually when a country song about it becomes popular. There was one about doing a good deed and passing it on or something like that and people weren’t dicks for a month or so.

  • @[email protected]
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    Our embassy would be calling for our citizens to leave USA now if not the pesky international relations.

  • @buzz86us
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    And he’ll hand this country to the rich in a silver platter.

    • @PriorityMotif
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      Yeah, they just needed a stooge to sign off on whatever and keep people distracted with his antics.

  • @taiyang
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    I have to remind myself that the only silver lining of being Californian and unable to really effect this outcome of this race is that we’re also least likely to pay any personal consequences. Still bad, but I feel for people in states with less protections for LGBTQ and immigrants, and especially for people in countries that are completely fucked right now unless something crazy happens.

    I know already that my state and several other blue states have been working on a contingency plan ever since Biden looked like a certain loss, months back. Then again, might make little difference if he goes full fascist, but a silver lining is a silver lining none the less.

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      Over here in Florida where they’re banning books and censoring LGBT from schools. All my family (besides my parents and siblings) are Republicans and are actively voting to the person who is trying to legalize murdering me (trans, closeted) 🙃
      My teacher is also an anti masker.
      Send help pls.

      • @Sweetpeaches69
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        When you’re 18, you’re more than welcome in the New Mexico/Colorado coalition. New Mexico is more affordable, FYI. Until then, there are good people on Lemmy you can lean on.

      • @taiyang
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        I noticed that… Redder than ever as I watched the polls. I guess at least it’ll be under the ocean in a few decades. Amazing how it changed since 2000, though. My PhD is in education policy, and also someone who dated a trans woman, I know exactly how fucked y’all are.

        If only California could fix it’s housing issues, we really should be a refuge for cool folk like yourself. People used to flock here, for better or worse.

        • @MutilationWave
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          Hardly anyone can afford to live in the progressive parts unfortunately.

          • @taiyang
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            It’s true. Some places are affordable but won’t be terribly enjoyable unless a lot of progressives move there (like Bakersfield isn’t the worst place in the world).

    • Ben Hur Horse Race
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      yeah, thats all fair. it is ignoring how california will be uninhabitable in short order if we dont take immediate steps to curb climate change, and trump has vowed to undo the little progress the biden administration had accomplished, and to “drill, baby, drill”

      • @taiyang
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        Yeah, that’s going to be a world wide problem in any case. California can also keep doing it’s green push too, but just like with countries, it’s a moot point if your neighbor is mucking everything up.

    • @HonoraryMancunian
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      104 hours ago

      …my state and several other blue states have been working on a contingency plan ever since Biden looked like a certain loss, months back.

      Can you expand on this, in eli5 fashion? Curious foreigner here.

      • @taiyang
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        103 hours ago

        As they said, money, but I’d say there are a few safeguards. On obvious issues like reproductive rights, we can hold out on “states decide” until there’s a federal ban, and even longer with legal challenges. States that rarified it in their construction have a similar setup. We also have organizations in place to help undocumented immigrants so much so that they can get drivers licenses and insurance, etc.

        As for things specific to Trump, it’s mostly a matter of having a lot of lawyers ready to challenge things and purposefully not following federal law if needed. 4 years is a remarkably short time to hold out, assuming again they don’t just go full fascist and arrest our governor and state Congress. Technically shouldn’t be possible even with the supreme court but who knows.

        Speaking of which, that’s the real problem-- federal appointed judges. So all together we’ll just have to see. States rights is a good thing when you’ve got a good state, though.

      • peopleproblems
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        Oh that part’s easy.

        Money.

        California has economic power over the rest of the US because of the money that flows through it.

      • @taiyang
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        Nah, that’s a trap. At tempting at it is, it’s better for everyone to stay a union even if California has the 5th (or 6th depending on measure) strongest economy in the world. Plus imagine how fucked the other 49 would be!

      • @[email protected]
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        63 hours ago

        If I live close to Illinois do you think it’s worth making the move?? Can’t the federal government just do whatever the fuck it wants regardless of state rights

        • @Duamerthrax
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          Laws are only real if they’re enforced. What we know is is that Trump promised to send troops into “sanctuary cities” and this time around, his wranglers know better on how to use him. Go to a safe city or state, but be prepared to move country if you’re one of their undesirables.

        • HubertManne
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          Its more about how the state comports its own affairs so keeping up its public infrastructure and not allowing poisoning of natural spaces and such. I can’t say its worth the move as these things are really situational. Im just sorta glad I am at where I am at.

  • @[email protected]
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    Literally in a car with an immigrant right now who voted Trump because things were cheaper before covid.

    FFS.

    • JaggedRobotPubes
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      72 hours ago

      I don’t expect everybody to be politically aware, but there’s “not politically aware” and then there’s whatever that is.

    • @RaoulDook
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      253 hours ago

      So sad that dumbasses who think the President controls grocery store prices and gas prices have done this to us all.

      I voted for Harris and my state went red for Trump as usual. Just sad and disgusted at it all today.

    • @[email protected]
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      Instead of mocking people like this, us on the left really need to understand them and how to appeal to them better than Trump. Dude is a billionaire and managed to convince working people he’s on their side. He’s winning the populism game because no one else is even playing it. Time to beat him at his own game

    • @[email protected]
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      224 hours ago

      Grocery stores are making record profits. Do they really think they are going to voluntarily cut prices? They know there will be no oversight under trump (not that Biden did anything about price gouging). Prices are going to go up even higher.

      • @PriorityMotif
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        Not if people don’t have enough money, then they’ll take the five finger discount.

    • @DerArzt
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      Anecdotal evidence that the right is for the uneducated.

        • @[email protected]
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          Solid distinction.

          Religion primed the rubes, and a new godhead told them he is their salvation.

      • @[email protected]
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        Anecdotally… About 75% of the right that I know/met.

        The other 25% is a mix of racism, greed, and conspiracy theory.

        • @ZILtoid1991
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          Every time they’ll be complaining about the price hikes under Trump, just remind them of why they voted for Trump. This is the best course of action against “collective amnesia” as we call it in Hungary.

          • @[email protected]
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            Oh alongside the loss of benefits they rely on (which I told them about), the pandemic potential with the worst Kennedy, even their friends which are of varying ethnicities and going to be targeted, the list is… Long.

  • @hOrni
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    Diabetes, please do your job.

    • JaggedRobotPubes
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      JD Vance is a more effective stooge, because he does what he’s told without question. Trump at least has his particular brand of self-defeating chaos.

    • @[email protected]
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      trump may very well die within the next 4 years, even 4 weeks after all that campaigning strain, but I am just no sure if JD wouldn’t make everything worse if he got hold of the reins?

      One thing is sure President Vance would be a total shit show.

      • @Duamerthrax
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        Thiel is Vance’s backer. Vance would be a competent Trump. Much more dangerous.

    • @[email protected]
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      There is an interesting question as to what happens if he dies before being sworn in. It’s not clear what succession looks like then, I think…

      • @ZILtoid1991
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        Likely JD Vance will be chosen as president, he gets some similar weirdo as a vice-president. He will be exactly like Trump, but without the charm.

        • @chiliedogg
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          I’m not as sure.

          I hate Vance and he’d be a terrible President, but he also was firmly anti-Trump before, and only became a Trump sycophant for political reasons.

          If Trump dies he may feel the freedom to do what he wants to do as President, while claiming to be Trump’s heir to the personality cult.

          At this point it’s our best outcome.

          • @ZILtoid1991
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            There’s actually a few more:

            • undisputable evidence for destroying ballots, or some other stuff
            • a lone gunman 3: this time an army professional with better guns
            • unfaithful electors
            • Biden lives with his new found presidental power, and does an “official act”
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              Biden lives with his new found presidental power, and does an “official act”

              Wow, that would be quite a thing. Dark to even think of him being the hero we need, but don’t deserve…

              • @MutilationWave
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                I am 100% sure that Biden doing anything at all that would change the outcome of the election would lead to rural versus urban civil war. Maybe that’s what we need. But it will be unbelievably terrible.

            • @chiliedogg
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              If the Dems took the House, some of those might be perversely better. But between Vance and Johnson, I’d take Vance.

              And enough states have laws to prevent unfaithful electors to keep that from being an option.

              I absolutely believe Trump won. The dems pushed hard on abortion while abortion was separately on the ballots in several swing states, so even for the virtually unheard-of single-issue pro-choice voters, they could just take care of that with the ballot initiative and then vote for Trump anyway. Meanwhile, the pro-life voters doubled-down against the Dems.

              Pro-choice-centered campaigns have always been general election poison. The disasterous 2022 elections should have taught the Dems that. Or Wendy Davis’s 2014 Texas Gubanatorial campaign when she ran on abortion rights and lost by over 20 points in an open election against an unpopular Greg Abbot. At that time, Texas had only elected 2 Republican governors since the previous Democratic woman, and even Perry almost lost the Governor’s mansion in 2006.

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          Honestly, a smarter version of trump as president is a very concerning thought. I am not sure if it is better or much much worse.

          • @PriorityMotif
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            Charismatic people rarely are smart because life is easier for them in the first place.

  • @Shadywack
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    Now I can watch terminally online lefties lose their shit and seethe while knowing it’s not going to be nearly as bad as everyone says. It’s going to be entertaining to watch everyone freak out over nothing.

    • @Eximius
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      Your myopia is untreatable.

    • @mhague
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      Trump already killed millions during COVID. Remember when a deadly disease broke out, killing millions, and the Republican stance was both “It doesn’t exist.” and “China did it.”?

      Literally a global pandemic and these people can’t even focus on a solution.

      It was 5 years ago.

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        1.2 million estimated in the US, especially if you track the “fell off a ladder, definitely Covid” stuff.

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    So guilliani is gonna be bailed out, Vince McMahon is gonna get a pardon too, same with Elon for whatever he wants to do, and pretty much every evil billionaire out there. I also think Trump has no interest in governing, and this administration will be Vance and his project 25 people running the show

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      Regarding Elon, it’s even better than that: he’s probably getting a cabinet post. Say goodbye to the free and open internet where people are mean to him and daddy Trump. Goodbye encryption, and the “unauthorized” websites/web services. Hello tracking, dynamic pricing, and compulsive service use designed to drain your wallet.

      Americans chose fuck around, and now we get to find out.

    • @Kaput
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      Can he get Joe exotic Pardoned so at least we get some entertaining train wreck to keep our long off the politics?

    • @Zirconium
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      Free Sam Bankman Fried. Maybe he can steal more money from morons

            • Ben Hur Horse Race
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              you’re is a contraction of “you are” while your is possive.

              you’re a fun person

              your coins, your keys

            • Ben Hur Horse Race
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              it’s “you’re welcome”.

              your is possessive. you’re is a contraction of “you are”. your welcome means you’re somehow talking about “my welcome”

    • monke🐵
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      Kudos to them for having the courage to put this out

    • @[email protected]
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      I just don’t get why they never learn. I thought you were saying this is spoofed and the real cover was in that article…but nope that’s the really real image. The right LOVES images like this, it does nothing to inform the base besides giving a “cool counter that he’s beating”. Show pictures of him going down on the mic on stage, show pictures of how old and fragile he is, anything but the stupid mugshot/he’s a bad guy motif that’s done nothing for the past year.

  • Madrigal
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    4 more years? Nah. 6 months before they turf him.

    This’ll be a Vance presidency.

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      To what end? He’ll do what billionaires and the project 2025 ghouls want him to anyways. He doesn’t need to be turfed. They want to keep him there soaking up all the media attention and hate while they do their evil shit in the dark.

    • @cabron_offsets
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      Why bother, fat fuck is one fateful hamberder away from fucking off.

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        If they get the supermajority with the house, it’s game over. They’ll spend the next two years shoring up their power to where they won’t need elections anymore.

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      They wouldn’t need to bother. High risk for relatively little benefit over him nominally being in the position.

      If they are going to sideline him in practice, I’d expect more of a Dick Cheney. It’s not like he’s going to stand in the way as long as he gets personally enriched/protected.

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      I’ve been wondering if this is one of the unwritten plays of Project 2025.

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    Assuming…you know…Biden will lose his record for oldest president ever and the gerontocracy continues.

    Gotta think 2029 brings the biggest drop in age for a long time, JFK was 26 years younger than Eisenhower. We could beat it with a 56 year old in 2029. Vance would break that record if by election or…you know…but I think Whitmer would be 56 exactly. Wes Moore, Buttigieg, Josh Shapiro would all break it.