• John Richard
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    -4115 days ago

    That establishment Democrat on the right looks surprisingly happy.

    • Lightor
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      1315 days ago

      Yeah the guy who promised things would get ugly, would be a dictator, and wants to “make people pay”, he’s the good guy lol.

      • John Richard
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        I never said that. But go on and tell us why you think Trump is the good guy.

        • Lightor
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          The trolly problem has a clear moral good choice and bad choice. Saying the dem picked the choice with more deaths clearly indicates you think Trump is the track with less death, i.e. the good guy. Man, logic is never a strong suite for people like you huh?

          • Anas
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            615 days ago

            The trolly problem has a clear moral good choice and bad choice.

            I don’t think you understand what the trolley problem is.

            • Lightor
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              -215 days ago

              Just re read the concept to make sure. I think I do.

              • Anas
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                There is no clear moral choice in the trolley problem. It comes down to personal opinion and morals, whether or not you believe that moving the switch makes you responsible for killing the one man, and not engaging the switch at all makes you a bystander, since you didn’t move the trolley or tie the people up in the first place.

                Or if you believe that it’s still morally correct to reduce the number of lost lives, if you have to kill someone in the process.

                Oh, and I didn’t vote for anyone.

                I’m not American

                • Lightor
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                  -215 days ago

                  The trolly problem only works because it’s headed towards a large group and you have a choice to make of allowing a thing to happen that you had no part causing in the first place. That is not the case in this situation.

                  Also never called you an American or said anything about you voting. I was talking about the opinion of Trump. So don’t know where that came from, seems a bit defensive.

                  • Anas
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                    215 days ago

                    It’s absolutely defensive, I figure I won’t come off as a “troll” if I declare it when I talk about your politics.

                    I do agree that the meme has the tracks reversed, and I did forget about the full context, so sorry if you caught my original comment lol, but the whole situation absolutely connects with the actual trolley problem for me.

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          • John Richard
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            -915 days ago

            You missed my point entirely. My point was that we wouldn’t have Trump had Democrats focused on popular progressive messaging and not the align with the Cheney’s, always support genocide, pro-corporate messaging.

            • Lightor
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              That establishment Democrat on the right looks surprisingly happy

              That’s saying the right path was chosen by the dems, where the other would be the republicans. You may have meant to send a different message about aligning with the right, but that’s not how it comes across. For what it’s worth, I very much agree with you on that point.

              • John Richard
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                -615 days ago

                That’s not how I saw the photo. I didn’t see it as being a Republican on one side and Democrat on the other. I saw it being an establishment Democrat on one side and a Bernie-like progressive on the other.

                • Lightor
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                  315 days ago

                  What lead you to see it that way? I read is as dems vs reps because those are the two parties we have and that meme has been showed with that context many tmes.

    • @hoch
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      415 days ago

      Have you been tested? You might actually have a learning disability

    • JaggedRobotPubes
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      The blame the Democrats deserve is secondary by about a half marathon. There’s nazis about, boy!

      And that still leaves room for a lot of blame. But no, the underperforming firefighters are not at fault for the fire, the arsonist is.

      • John Richard
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        The arsonist in this scenario would be the corporate Democrat consultants and Kamala herself. You run the same campaign in 4 more years and you’ll get another Republican. It is time for self-reflection and people to demand change in the Democratic party. Failing to do that is exactly why Trump got re-elected.

        • @Hackworth
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          What got Trump elected is climate change increasing pressures in hundreds of domains, making people fearful and easy to manipulate. It’s happening the world over. Blaming whoever opposes Trump for not doing it quite right is another flavor of copium.

          • @Bustedknuckles
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            I agree, but what do you do about that? I’m not out here geo-engineering albedo shit to still climate change.

            So where does the blame go? I think at status quo Dem leadership when people are genuinely anxious and struggling. Maybe Kamala did the best she could for who she is, but the DNC should have been retired when Obama won