• @chiliedogg
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    I’m not as sure.

    I hate Vance and he’d be a terrible President, but he also was firmly anti-Trump before, and only became a Trump sycophant for political reasons.

    If Trump dies he may feel the freedom to do what he wants to do as President, while claiming to be Trump’s heir to the personality cult.

    At this point it’s our best outcome.

    • @ZILtoid1991
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      There’s actually a few more:

      • undisputable evidence for destroying ballots, or some other stuff
      • a lone gunman 3: this time an army professional with better guns
      • unfaithful electors
      • Biden lives with his new found presidental power, and does an “official act”
      • @chiliedogg
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        515 days ago

        If the Dems took the House, some of those might be perversely better. But between Vance and Johnson, I’d take Vance.

        And enough states have laws to prevent unfaithful electors to keep that from being an option.

        I absolutely believe Trump won. The dems pushed hard on abortion while abortion was separately on the ballots in several swing states, so even for the virtually unheard-of single-issue pro-choice voters, they could just take care of that with the ballot initiative and then vote for Trump anyway. Meanwhile, the pro-life voters doubled-down against the Dems.

        Pro-choice-centered campaigns have always been general election poison. The disasterous 2022 elections should have taught the Dems that. Or Wendy Davis’s 2014 Texas Gubanatorial campaign when she ran on abortion rights and lost by over 20 points in an open election against an unpopular Greg Abbot. At that time, Texas had only elected 2 Republican governors since the previous Democratic woman, and even Perry almost lost the Governor’s mansion in 2006.

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        315 days ago

        Biden lives with his new found presidental power, and does an “official act”

        Wow, that would be quite a thing. Dark to even think of him being the hero we need, but don’t deserve…

        • @MutilationWave
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          315 days ago

          I am 100% sure that Biden doing anything at all that would change the outcome of the election would lead to rural versus urban civil war. Maybe that’s what we need. But it will be unbelievably terrible.

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      I hate Vance and he’d be a terrible President, but he also was firmly anti-Trump before, and only became a Trump sycophant for political reasons.

      He’s Peter Thiel’s property, so he’ll do whatever he tells him to do. And Thiel is a weird, evil and intelligent man. A Vance presidency would probably be less insane and more calculating (for better and for worse) than Trump at least.

      • @chiliedogg
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        114 days ago

        I think Vance would consider consequences. He wouldn’t drop a nuke on a whim.