I suppose the ones that aren’t holding your government hostage via the military industrial complex. If those Palestinians didn’t want to be bombed into oblivion they should have lobbied themselves up by their own bootstraps.
do you feel any cognitive dissonance condoning the attack of civilians for the actions of their genocidal countrymen while throwing up your hands in popular defense of civilians being attacked for the actions of their genocidal countrymen?
Honestly I don’t know enough to condone either ‘side’ here but I am reasonably confident in my own mind that this was not just taxi drivers looking for Jews to attack for no reason. I am open to being wrong there.
I wish there was no violence but I also believe that communities have the right to defend themselves. I can’t say if there is a moral winner in this whole situation.
Every American should learn about the so called zoot suit “riots”
White American sailors got in a fight with Mexican Americans. It’s unclear what started it but the following actions of American sailors provides good context. After the initial fight, sailors started to randomly target Mexican-Americans and jumping them. Of course, there was retaliation and it got really crazy - I won’t spoil it for anyone interested.
The reason I mention it is because it’s fascinating to see how media organizations like the LA Times covered it. They unanimously blamed “gangs” of Mexicans and didn’t blame demonstrably racist American sailors whatsoever - they were obviously brave patriots, and not you know fuckin fascists
I honestly lost track of the layers of irony here. I don’t want Israelis to be harmed any more than Palestinians. I am under the impression the violence was defensive in nature which is hard to be upset about. If it wasn’t then I absolutely don’t condone it.
so you’re upset about civilians being attacked but you’re not upset about civilians being attacked?
which civilians deserve to be attacked?
I suppose the ones that aren’t holding your government hostage via the military industrial complex. If those Palestinians didn’t want to be bombed into oblivion they should have lobbied themselves up by their own bootstraps.
do you feel any cognitive dissonance condoning the attack of civilians for the actions of their genocidal countrymen while throwing up your hands in popular defense of civilians being attacked for the actions of their genocidal countrymen?
Honestly I don’t know enough to condone either ‘side’ here but I am reasonably confident in my own mind that this was not just taxi drivers looking for Jews to attack for no reason. I am open to being wrong there.
I wish there was no violence but I also believe that communities have the right to defend themselves. I can’t say if there is a moral winner in this whole situation.
Every American should learn about the so called zoot suit “riots”
White American sailors got in a fight with Mexican Americans. It’s unclear what started it but the following actions of American sailors provides good context. After the initial fight, sailors started to randomly target Mexican-Americans and jumping them. Of course, there was retaliation and it got really crazy - I won’t spoil it for anyone interested.
The reason I mention it is because it’s fascinating to see how media organizations like the LA Times covered it. They unanimously blamed “gangs” of Mexicans and didn’t blame demonstrably racist American sailors whatsoever - they were obviously brave patriots, and not you know fuckin fascists
I actually read about these because of the cherry poppin daddies song.
and I agree, you make a great point.
It was also 80+ years ago.
I mean, its relevant, just - things also change. Brave American Soldiers in 1943 was an easy sell.
Discrimination is bad, you should just kill all civilians equally
I honestly lost track of the layers of irony here. I don’t want Israelis to be harmed any more than Palestinians. I am under the impression the violence was defensive in nature which is hard to be upset about. If it wasn’t then I absolutely don’t condone it.
sounds weird when you strip away the cynicism