Summary

Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.

The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.

The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.

  • @venusaur
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    413 days ago

    Women will continue to demand better for themselves and some men will continue to get more radicalized in retaliation until we start raising boys to be empathetic and not sexualizing them so they feel entitled to people’s bodies.

    • @PunnyName
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      233 days ago

      Consent and boundaries need to be learned at an early age.
      Understanding the emotions of others, and not being at the center of every interaction.
      Understanding individual bodily autonomy, and extension of that to others.

      These all need to be passed on in early life, because they are foundational to ensuring better overall social interactions with the opposite sex, knowing the worth of oneself and others, and being respectful to everyone including oneself.

      • @Eatspancakes84
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        113 days ago

        I would be very interested in understanding how boys are treated differently now then when I was young (millennial here). Why are gen z men so upset?

        • @PunnyName
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          93 days ago

          Many aren’t, which is part of the problem. There are still people who think beating children is acceptable punishment for change, despite evidence otherwise.

          Gentle parenting is one method I’ve seen that has promise.

          But when parents don’t actually try to learn how to parent, and don’t understand that they are raising an adult, generational bad behavior repeats itself with little growth.

          • @[email protected]
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            3 days ago

            Meh. I got beat plenty and I’m not a fascist incel.

            Edit: i I want to clarify that I’m not saying beatings are okay I’m saying that I don’t think that’s the sole reason for people being shitty.

        • @[email protected]
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          43 days ago

          I’m a Millennial and I’m trying really hard not to judge Gen Z, but they’re more conservative, don’t know how to use tech, can’t sign their name, and can’t tell the difference between reality and conspiracies.

          I’m not a parent so I don’t know whether other Millennial parents are the problem, education, or something else but man do they just come off as a bunch of idiots.

        • @venusaur
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          23 days ago

          Not sure but Gen Alpha is scarier to me. Red pill ideologies are ingrained in their culture.

    • peopleproblems
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      53 days ago

      You know what just dawned on me

      These guys essentially want sex dolls that can do chores. Sex dolls are way cheaper to take care of and they’ll learn to do chores themselves hiding it from everyone else lol

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        Imagine a future with sex robots. Good or bad for human women?

          • peopleproblems
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            12 days ago

            Would it though? I mean like the sex doll thing is still taboo, something about enabling predation or something (which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense considering they are basically rubber manikins and we don’t label manikin displays as slave labor in stores… But maybe we should?)

            Idk. It would at least keep the horny at bay, at least those that could afford it.