This isn’t the first time a republican has become president and everyone thinks they’ll never get to vote again.
I can remember thinking 9/11 meant GW would cancel elections.
If trump actually cancels elections, then it’s civil war. I’m not saying that I’ll start it, but there’s no way just flat out canceling elections is something all the states go along with.
And an American civil war over if trump gets to be dictator for life isn’t just going to be America fighting itself, it’ll jump to WW3 almost immediately.
Sucks to live in “interesting times” but it is what it is. This is what happens when the same small group of wealthy elites own the only two options. Voter turnout is depressed and the worst option wins because their voters are even worse people.
So hopefully next time there’s a general election, at least one of the candidates will be willing to do what it takes to fight fascism.
Biden was a waste of four years. Were worse off right now then when he took office according to you if this was the last election.
And I suspect that trump isn’t the first candidate to have said that.
People don’t remember how batshit crazy US politics used to be…
Like, you know federal politicians used to duel and kill each other? There’s been multiple fights in official chambers. Not just punches, elected officials beating each other with metal canes and putting each other in the hospital.
Hell, we literally had a civil war already, and a war of independence.
People who think we’re living in unprecedented times, just are ignorant of precedence.
It sucks that our lifetime has to be interesting, but it’s what it is
This isn’t the first time a republican has become president and everyone thinks they’ll never get to vote again.
Also old as fuck. Outside of conspiracy theorists and rabble rousers, yes it is.
I can remember thinking 9/11 meant GW would cancel elections.
The only serious talk there was of this was the possibility of this happening if we were to have ultimately gone to war directly over 9/11. Like if things broke out and we were in a WW2 or Vietnam-level conflict with Saudi Arabia or something. Then there was talk about Bush possibly suspending elections until after the war was over. But again, mostly conspiracy-theory level stuff and not like it was going to be some authoritarian power grab.
After 9/11, far more people were pissed off over the PATRIOT act than there were people who seriously thought it would bring about the end of elections.
If trump actually cancels elections, then it’s civil war. I’m not saying that I’ll start it, but there’s no way just flat out canceling elections is something all the states go along with.
This would depend on where the loyalties of the people in the military lie.
So hopefully next time there’s a general election, at least one of the candidates will be willing to do what it takes to fight fascism.
There were two of them. And Democrat voters said that one was too old and the other was a black woman, so they had no choice but to let the facist take back power. I mean, what were they going to do? Elect a black woman?
Biden was a waste of four years. Were worse off right now then when he took office according to you if this was the last election.
Except he wasn’t, and we’re not. You know where all that inflation came from? Trump pumping trillions and trillions into the economy with big fat tax cuts for the rich and sending everybody $600 checks every month for a year and a half. I’m not even saying that the $600 checks were even bad per se given the situation we were in, but you cannot just pump that much money into the economy all at once without a huge shock to the system. Otherwise known as inflation. Biden spent 4 years getting inflation caused by Trump policies down and still got shit on for it. Solutions take time. The problem was never going to fix itself in a day. Biden got inflation down to normal, and Harris had several plans to address price gouging and other forms of greedflation. But she’s black so Democrats decided to say those plans just weren’t good enough so they were just going to put the economy into the hands of a man who’s entire economic plan is “They’re eating the dogs!”
the possibility of this happening if we were to have ultimately gone to war directly over 9/11. Like if things broke out and we were in a WW2 or Vietnam-level conflict with Saudi Arabia or something
Mate…
If you don’t think OEF was a bad as Vietnam…
I mean, both were terrible, obviously, but if you don’t even think they’re at least comparable?
I don’t think we should be trusting your memory of 9/11 when you can’t remember as far back as 2013 when OEF “ended”. Especially since OIR immediately started.
Yeah, that stuff matters because trump won’t pardon himself day 1…
We put all our money behind ineffectual moderates in 2020, they failed, and that depressed turnout allowing trump to be president again.
I just hope 3x is the limit and we don’t fuck up 2028 by running another ineffectual moderate.
But considering the same group of wealthy elites fund our only two options…
We’re gonna have to do more than just hope the DNC finally pulls it’s head out of its ass and starts fighting.
Bold of you to assume you’re going to get to vote in 2028, or that there will be any oppositional candidates left by then.
Trump has made it crysal clear he intends to establish a dictatorship, and dictators aren’t known for voluntarily stepping away from power.
I’m old as fuck…
This isn’t the first time a republican has become president and everyone thinks they’ll never get to vote again.
I can remember thinking 9/11 meant GW would cancel elections.
If trump actually cancels elections, then it’s civil war. I’m not saying that I’ll start it, but there’s no way just flat out canceling elections is something all the states go along with.
And an American civil war over if trump gets to be dictator for life isn’t just going to be America fighting itself, it’ll jump to WW3 almost immediately.
Sucks to live in “interesting times” but it is what it is. This is what happens when the same small group of wealthy elites own the only two options. Voter turnout is depressed and the worst option wins because their voters are even worse people.
So hopefully next time there’s a general election, at least one of the candidates will be willing to do what it takes to fight fascism.
Biden was a waste of four years. Were worse off right now then when he took office according to you if this was the last election.
I hope you’re right, but AFAIK there hasn’t ever been a candidate who quite literally said he’d end democracy if they voted for him the way Trump did.
On the other hand:
Name a president that lies as much as trump.
And I suspect that trump isn’t the first candidate to have said that.
People don’t remember how batshit crazy US politics used to be…
Like, you know federal politicians used to duel and kill each other? There’s been multiple fights in official chambers. Not just punches, elected officials beating each other with metal canes and putting each other in the hospital.
Hell, we literally had a civil war already, and a war of independence.
People who think we’re living in unprecedented times, just are ignorant of precedence.
It sucks that our lifetime has to be interesting, but it’s what it is
Also old as fuck. Outside of conspiracy theorists and rabble rousers, yes it is.
The only serious talk there was of this was the possibility of this happening if we were to have ultimately gone to war directly over 9/11. Like if things broke out and we were in a WW2 or Vietnam-level conflict with Saudi Arabia or something. Then there was talk about Bush possibly suspending elections until after the war was over. But again, mostly conspiracy-theory level stuff and not like it was going to be some authoritarian power grab.
After 9/11, far more people were pissed off over the PATRIOT act than there were people who seriously thought it would bring about the end of elections.
This would depend on where the loyalties of the people in the military lie.
There were two of them. And Democrat voters said that one was too old and the other was a black woman, so they had no choice but to let the facist take back power. I mean, what were they going to do? Elect a black woman?
Except he wasn’t, and we’re not. You know where all that inflation came from? Trump pumping trillions and trillions into the economy with big fat tax cuts for the rich and sending everybody $600 checks every month for a year and a half. I’m not even saying that the $600 checks were even bad per se given the situation we were in, but you cannot just pump that much money into the economy all at once without a huge shock to the system. Otherwise known as inflation. Biden spent 4 years getting inflation caused by Trump policies down and still got shit on for it. Solutions take time. The problem was never going to fix itself in a day. Biden got inflation down to normal, and Harris had several plans to address price gouging and other forms of greedflation. But she’s black so Democrats decided to say those plans just weren’t good enough so they were just going to put the economy into the hands of a man who’s entire economic plan is “They’re eating the dogs!”
Mate…
If you don’t think OEF was a bad as Vietnam…
I mean, both were terrible, obviously, but if you don’t even think they’re at least comparable?
I don’t think we should be trusting your memory of 9/11 when you can’t remember as far back as 2013 when OEF “ended”. Especially since OIR immediately started.
Like, you realize Vietnam at least ended…
Right?