• @johannesvanderwhales
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    298 days ago

    I don’t really buy that the “leftists sank kamala” narrative is accurate. There’s just two Americas and one is bigger than the other.

    • @[email protected]
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      378 days ago

      I feel like the leftists not voting for Kamala would be more likely to sit home and not vote at all. Which would line up pretty well with the shitty leftist turnout.

      • @[email protected]
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        17 days ago

        But I thought the left “never votes”. If leftists never vote then those 20 million who didn’t vote were blue conservatives.

    • @Keeponstalin
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      238 days ago

      It’s not. The Harris campaign made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of at least a +6 points gain. That’s the fault of the campaign’s calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with Liz Cheney and having the most lethal Military. That single policy change would have secured her the swing states needed to win the election.

      I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It’s still on the campaign to earn votes to win. Blaming voters is just sowing division when we need unity and solidarity to fight against Fascism.

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      Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.

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      In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.

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      Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.

      Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.

    • @naught101
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      68 days ago

      How do you explain the drop in the dem vote between 2020 and 2024 then?

      • @brucethemoose
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        8 days ago

        Uh, COVID-19? When Trump was president?

        • @naught101
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          88 days ago

          Uh, wut? That’s your whole explanation?

          • @brucethemoose
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            8 days ago

            To elaborate, COVID-19 was absolutely impossible to ignore. It made everyone feel miserable, and it got them to turn out to vote for Biden.

            This year? No such disaster shoving its way into people’s lives. Out of sight, out of mind.

            I don’t think Lemmy people grasp how insulated/isolated most ‘swing’ or ‘sometimes’ voters are. They know tiny nuggets of politics that are fed to them through social feeds or whatever, and COVID-19 was like a bulldozer mowing through their house. Ironically, it got people active.

            • @boywar3
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              58 days ago

              Its going to be interesting seeing the Republicans do their batshit policies, as people REALLY hate having their bottle taken away (“bottle” in this case being the ACA, prices of goods, abortion access, etc.)

              The United States just needs a reminder of just how bad things can be. They’ll learn if you keep hitting them hard enough…