I’m mean, there’s a part of me that would say “fuck yeah, I would get a second job and get two incomes”. The other part of me is really sleepy, so I’m honestly not sure who would win this internal debate.
Probably the sleepy bit for the first few months as you recover from a lifetime of wage slavery. Then the second job part comes along, once you’re in the right place and you figure out what you would love to do all day.
Yeah, beside having an “official” job, I think people can still have personal projects that are great for society if they don’t have to work all week for money.
you’d be sleepy, perhaps for months or years, until you realize that a fulfilling life is not one spent in oblivion and you find a better way to use your time!
It’s not fraud but it’s a breach of contract, unless you find a different company that’s ok with you having a full time job and working after hours, and you clear the air with your existing employer.
If you’re found doing this, good luck explaining your next employer why they can’t ask around for references.
It’s really not, at least not in my state. I don’t really have a “contract” per se, just an offer letter and a set of company policies, many of which are legally unenforceable. I know multiple people at my company that have second jobs (i.e. a rental property, uber/doordash, etc), they just do them outside of normal work hours and certainly don’t share equipment between the various jobs.
And for references, I would never list my current employer anyway, because then they’d know I’m looking for a job. I might list an HR contact to verify employment and job title (if they need that, which is rare), but I’m much more likely to list someone unconnected to my current job as a reference. Most jobs I’ve applied to haven’t bothered asking for references, and my company certainly doesn’t bother with it either, either you get hired based on your own merits in the interview process, or you don’t. We do a background check once we send an offer letter to make sure you’re not a serial killer or something, but that’s as far as we go.
So your brilliant mind sees someone emphasizing how little work they have by saying they watch movies and you think “Hmpf, that’s probably what UBI is like!”
And now because you think it, it’s evidence? Fuck right outta here chump.
Because nobody ever accepts more work or responsibility for higher pay to afford more or better things. Most people work just enough to pay for rent and groceries and are perfectly happy with that.
Difference between UBI and this is that you get paid the minimum for living, which would mean him being able to live like this would only be possible for a short amount of time or with really restricted funds
Love that you’re getting down voted but we had something approaching universal basic income in my country trough wellfare plans that were not exclusive with each other and had super lax requirements (since corrupt officials would take a cut of them) and it resulted in a very marked increase in poverty and a very marked cultural decline in work ethic on the lower classes
Why work or study when you can just stay at home and get paid enough to survive if you vote for the “right” candidate. People love to dream about theorized ideals but reality is often more complicated
love random comments dismissing potentially good policy because “in my country” which you didnt name, it doesn’t work
what kind of fucking scientist says “huh that attempt didn’t work i guess it never will”?
You’re not even going to tell us what country it is so we can see? probably not, because it is probably a shitty comparison.
and for the record, parent comment was downvoted because it’s fucking stupid. there’s no UBI in this post. it’s as if i take a day off and go to the park and say “Hmpf this is why UBI doesnt work!” like what the fuck are you talking about, UBI is not just when lazy day. the only thing that could make this post dumber would be calling me triggered for pointing out how dumb it is
So this answers the question what universal basic income would lead to — sitting at home and watching movies
Ah yes, the super-informative anecdotal sample size of…
*checks notes*
… one.
*checks notes again*
Eh, an unreliable source at that
I’m mean, there’s a part of me that would say “fuck yeah, I would get a second job and get two incomes”. The other part of me is really sleepy, so I’m honestly not sure who would win this internal debate.
Probably the sleepy bit for the first few months as you recover from a lifetime of wage slavery. Then the second job part comes along, once you’re in the right place and you figure out what you would love to do all day.
Yeah, beside having an “official” job, I think people can still have personal projects that are great for society if they don’t have to work all week for money.
you’d be sleepy, perhaps for months or years, until you realize that a fulfilling life is not one spent in oblivion and you find a better way to use your time!
You didn’t report that you don’t have a manager is a reason to fire you, but doing two jobs is both easy to find (if they’re looking) and fraud.
Having two jobs is fraud? What…?
Have you never heard of Overemployment? There are people out there working multiple easy WFM jobs and just raking in three incomes.
You’re allowed to have two jobs lol
It’s not fraud but it’s a breach of contract, unless you find a different company that’s ok with you having a full time job and working after hours, and you clear the air with your existing employer.
If you’re found doing this, good luck explaining your next employer why they can’t ask around for references.
It’s really not, at least not in my state. I don’t really have a “contract” per se, just an offer letter and a set of company policies, many of which are legally unenforceable. I know multiple people at my company that have second jobs (i.e. a rental property, uber/doordash, etc), they just do them outside of normal work hours and certainly don’t share equipment between the various jobs.
And for references, I would never list my current employer anyway, because then they’d know I’m looking for a job. I might list an HR contact to verify employment and job title (if they need that, which is rare), but I’m much more likely to list someone unconnected to my current job as a reference. Most jobs I’ve applied to haven’t bothered asking for references, and my company certainly doesn’t bother with it either, either you get hired based on your own merits in the interview process, or you don’t. We do a background check once we send an offer letter to make sure you’re not a serial killer or something, but that’s as far as we go.
That’s why it’s safer to get an other job asap. Just in case you lose the first one.
Even a cursory search online provides evidence that that isn’t the case: https://www.givedirectly.org/2023-ubi-results/#design
If he could read, you would have made him very upset.
So your brilliant mind sees someone emphasizing how little work they have by saying they watch movies and you think “Hmpf, that’s probably what UBI is like!”
And now because you think it, it’s evidence? Fuck right outta here chump.
Because nobody ever accepts more work or responsibility for higher pay to afford more or better things. Most people work just enough to pay for rent and groceries and are perfectly happy with that.
Difference between UBI and this is that you get paid the minimum for living, which would mean him being able to live like this would only be possible for a short amount of time or with really restricted funds
Love that you’re getting down voted but we had something approaching universal basic income in my country trough wellfare plans that were not exclusive with each other and had super lax requirements (since corrupt officials would take a cut of them) and it resulted in a very marked increase in poverty and a very marked cultural decline in work ethic on the lower classes
Why work or study when you can just stay at home and get paid enough to survive if you vote for the “right” candidate. People love to dream about theorized ideals but reality is often more complicated
love random comments dismissing potentially good policy because “in my country” which you didnt name, it doesn’t work
what kind of fucking scientist says “huh that attempt didn’t work i guess it never will”?
You’re not even going to tell us what country it is so we can see? probably not, because it is probably a shitty comparison.
and for the record, parent comment was downvoted because it’s fucking stupid. there’s no UBI in this post. it’s as if i take a day off and go to the park and say “Hmpf this is why UBI doesnt work!” like what the fuck are you talking about, UBI is not just when lazy day. the only thing that could make this post dumber would be calling me triggered for pointing out how dumb it is
We also do know how this supposed UBI was implemeted and by which metric it did not work.